When Dic!k’s Law Becomes Chick’s Law

Dorothy Dandridge and Harry Belafonte in Carmen Jones

Dorothy Dandridge and Harry Belafonte in Carmen Jones

I truly believe that Facebook could inspire a year’s worth of posts with little duplication especially around human interaction and thought. I love provocative updates in people’s profiles, because usually when hot buttons are pressed personal truths follow. And I’m not so sanctimonious to believe that there is only one truth; sometimes there are many. What fascinates me though is how and why people ARRIVE “there”; particularly women.

Olivia Fox wrote: A co-worker and I were having a conversation and out his mouth he spewed, if a woman rolls her fist up to hit me I will hit her back. And I said are you serious? As Grown ass man, you would hit a woman? and he said if a woman comes to me trying to fight like a man I will hit her like she was a man. Needless to say he has been put on PUNK ASS status, what are your thoughts?

Domestic violence has been hashed and rehashed on the internet. The Rhi Rhi and Chris show gets aired out on every blog and news station at least 700 million times a month. What became MORE interesting about the resulting media attention and (black) blog posts isn’t just the common men going off on “know your role” tangents and “don’t provoke men with your mouth”, but women who were coming out from under rocks co-signing the foolishness. Olivia Fox as of this morning has 79 comments on her status update and curiously the comments between men and women are split pretty evenly. And true to form most of the men are providing the standard “I don’t hit women BUT {insert the provocative extreme that would make it ok}, followed by the minority of men who state “Its never ok, walk away, calmer heads prevail.”

Sadly, that’s all pretty standard and expected on black web 2.0.

What is flooring and flabbergasting me are women who are finding “valid” reasons for a man to oops up side another woman’s head. Two other random blogs written by women I read this week similarly decided to make di!ck’s law, chick’s law (and I use d!ick in its most descriptive term) examining double standards in verbal and physical abuse. I don’t think there is EVER an excuse for a man to hit a woman. And I often note that there is something seriously wrong with a conversation and a person who would provide case studies and examples when it **might** be o.k or my favorite urban legend “My second cousin Tarshameika’La’Tifa-Michelle who weighs 350 pounds beats her man who weighs 82 pounds dripping wet EVERY NIGHT-so when is it ok for him to hit back?” (the better question is when is it OK FOR HIM TO LEAVE? when is it o.k. for her to get some HELP?)

When women start to mindlessly echo male retorts on “when its ok” to verbally or physically attack another women, it reveals a lot about women who may JUST want ANY man, appealing to the sensibilities of the lowest common denominator. Particularly when discussions never explore incompatibilities or incompatibilities in the escalations or better yet growing and moving on past poor experiences and picking a person who doesn’t provoke you to the kind of anger that you could physically harm someone or go to jail over.

A chick’s chick vs. a Dyck’s chick, black web. 2.0.

65 Responses to When Dic!k’s Law Becomes Chick’s Law
  1. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 7:43 am

    Why does anyone have to hit anyone? That’s what bothers me the most. Its obviously a losing game for a man if he hits a woman, justified (yeah I said it) or not. SO, instead of people making up scenarios on when you can hit a woman, or trying to make a man feel like a punk for having the audacity to do what somebody should’ve been done to your ignorant confrontational @ss, how bout we all try and figure out how we can better ourselves so that we can solve disagreements without the use of throwing hands regardless of gender.

  2. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 8:06 am

    I really need to be heading to work, but No More I COMPLETELY co-sign your whole comment.

    I’ll be back :)

  3. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 8:07 am

    “SO, instead of people making up scenarios on when you can hit a woman, or trying to make a man feel like a punk for having the audacity to do what somebody should’ve been done to your ignorant confrontational @ss”

    Some people..ie men..have ALWAYS made up excuses and exceptions. But when the trend starts to shift to women who think its ok in certain instances become WAY more revealing to me.

    Some, not all, black men have had this “under explore red” notion that black women are the perps and aggressors who “deserve what they get”.

    more than “why does anyone hit anyone”, which i agree, to me is the notion of..why do people choose who they choose..to date and marry. There aren’t many SURPRISES in relationships particularly with your eyes wide open.

  4. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 8:22 am

    “women who think its ok in certain instances”

    Thing is, women are always on some, “that b!tch better not bring that over here I’d beat her @ss” or whatnot…mostly joking cuz most of yall cant actually fight, but some of yall are serious, and some actually fight.So, if you wanna hit her because of reasons XYZ, then why are you surprised that a man hit her for those same reasons? Everything would’ve been on the up and up had it had been you doing the hitting?

    My question is regardless of women vs man or woman vs woman…whats up with women hitting/breaking/busting windows, etc. Do women just feel the need to be physical at some point?

  5. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 8:35 am

    ““that b!tch better not bring that over here I’d beat her @ss” ”

    As a grown woman..i honestly can say this doesn’t come up in everyday conversation or friday happy hour discussions.

    “My question is regardless of women vs man or woman vs woman…whats up with women hitting/breaking/busting windows, etc. Do women just feel the need to be physical at some point?”

    I don’t think I could bust a dudes window. I have already told the story of my BF who left his prized possession in my garage. And I used his hood for my bookself and resting spot for shoes and stuff I was giving away to good will. I also was also pretty careless when I took out the trash…(ops is that a scratch) lol..thats not funny..

    but what are you asking for real for real??? I never did any of those passive-aggressive things to test to see if he was gonna come check my jaw. Im not proud of what I did. I strung stuff along and so did he.

    So are you saying that property destruction is cause for beat down? i hate where I think this might all go..

  6. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 8:38 am

    Morning, y’all.

    This is a heavy topic for me. I think I struggle with reading/hearing about all abuse because I don’t completely understand it. I don’t think it’s right for either gender to hit/beat on the other gender.

    I’ve been reading more & more about women defending men who physically & verbally abuse women. Men no longer have to justify it because women are doing it for them & basically giving them permission to do so as long as one of the accepted exceptions exist. I read a lot of these defenses on Facebook & blogs but mainly on Twitter. I don’t know if the things people tweet are really who they are & what they mean or if it is just an online persona/alter ego they have created.

    In my opinion, no one should be physically or verbally abusing anyone. Men shouldn’t do it to women & women shouldn’t do it to men and in a perfect world, it would be this way.

    I think some women excuse men who hit them or make excuses for them to family and friends because they want to move beyond the incident(s). The women want to accept the apologies & grant their requests for forgiveness and when they do so, sometimes the women apologize for the part they played in it…for provoking them or for pressing his buttons, buttons she knew existed. I’ve read about women claiming “Yes, he hit (or beat) me BUT…I deserved it/had it coming/ asked for it by provoking him or by hitting him first or by stripping him of his manhood in front of others, or by running my mouth, etc., etc., etc. Or they’ll say ‘Yeah, he was wrong BUT…same excuses. I don’t think women realize that as soon as they say “BUT” they’re canceling the former statement and excusing it/making it okay/granting permission.

    Another one I don’t get is when a woman is commenting on a situation that didn’t happen to her but she witnessed, read about or heard about. Example: “If that woman had said the things she said to him to me, I would have beat her a$$ myself.” This is granting permission to a man to hit/beat another woman in a situation where the observer (the outsider looking in) doesn’t even have the authority to do so.

    Caveat: I’m always sensitive about the issue of abuse (all forms) but I saw an advanced screening of Precious last night so I think I’m extra sensitive regarding this issue right now. ;-)

  7. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 8:38 am

    “notion that black women are the perps and aggressors who “deserve what they get”.”

    Some women do deserve what they get. Some men do too. There are always consequences to your actions, and somebody laying hands to you could be one of them, man or woman..

  8. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 8:43 am

    “So are you saying that property destruction is cause for beat down?”

    Not to me, but to someone else, possibly.

    I relate this to a conversation I had with a 2520 about saying n!gger. Just cuz you say it and I dont personally stomp you out, doesnt mean the next person you say it to wont. And I’ll definitely understand his actions if he goes that route. So how about you just dont do it.

    @Shawnta: “Example: “If that woman had said the things she said to him to me, I would have beat her a$$ myself.” This is granting permission to a man to hit/beat another woman in a situation where the observer (the outsider looking in) doesn’t even have the authority to do so.”

    Completely agree.

  9. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 8:47 am

    Good morning y’all..

    I know I had my moments with the Chris Brown & Rhianna situation like I’m not bout to say anything until I found out Rhi Rhi’s part…… I still think that Rhianna is crazy and came out with her image untarnished…. Still regardless of what happened it should not have escalated to the point that it did.

    Domestic violence is stupid. To the men who do it. To the women who allow it to happen repeatedly… To the people who try to justify it…. It’s all stupid…

    People should really keep their hands to themselves…..

    In regards to No More’s Question :whats up with women hitting/breaking/busting windows

    That is STUPIDITY and IGNORANCE…..

  10. ForNot
    November 18, 2009 | 8:51 am

    I hate to fit the stereotype, but I would never ever hit a woman UNLESS (yes a caveat) my life was in danger. If she came at me with a gun or knife etc, I would hit her. But then it isn’t about gender, it’s about survival. That has to the be the only exception, in my view.

    Here is what I find interesting: many folks believe in spanking children. So it’s ok to hit a child, but not a woman? That doesn’t fully register in my book. Which is why I don’t believe in either in MY house.

  11. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 8:54 am

    why do people choose who they choose..to date and marry. .

    There is someone for everyone. I think often times because we associate with who we do, we don’t run into these super crazy women that are verbally/physically abusive in relationships. BUT THEY EXIST!! Same thing with men. There are women who will go toe to toe with men. And have NO problem with it.

  12. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 8:57 am

    If she came at me with a gun or knife etc, .

    I think I told yall about one of my friend/associates that was recently engaged. And how she ended up in jail with two black eyes and it made the front paper of her township’s paper. SHE CAME AT HIM WITH 2 KNIVES. I’m not convinced that ol dude had to whoop her azz the way he did, but she came at him with 2 knives. And admitted it. But they are now planning a wedding. LMAO

  13. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 9:03 am

    “I’m not convinced that ol dude had to whoop her azz the way he did, but she came at him with 2 knives.”

    Im impressed at the level of restraint shown by ol boy that all she got was two black eyes. TWO KNIVES? LOL…She should be thankful.

  14. ForNot
    November 18, 2009 | 9:07 am

    And they’re still getting married?!?!?

    I don’t see how she could marry a dude who blackened her eye, but I REALLY don’t see how HE could marry a woman who tried to doublestick him!

  15. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 9:09 am

    @ No More – LOL. She’s a wild one. BUT that’s what she’s used to. She’s from this small hillbilly/KKK city and she grew up watching her parents fight each other and other people. Her parents used to get in bar brawls on the regular. I’ve hung out with her mom (who is cool as she can be) and they are a wild bunch. I will say that after that incident she stopped drinking. She needed to because alcohol definitely played a factor in it.

  16. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 9:09 am

    Here is what I find interesting: many folks believe in spanking children. So it’s ok to hit a child, but not a woman? That doesn’t fully register in my book. Which is why I don’t believe in either in MY house.

    @Offey… Good point…. Now I can say my daddy didn’t really whoop me. He tried but just couldn’t pull it off… I’m pretty sure that me being a lil girl had something to do with it…

  17. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 9:10 am

    @ offey – They got engaged AFTER this happened. They’re getting married in March. That’s why I say, there is someone for everybody.

  18. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 9:12 am

    Oh and noticed I said SHE ended up in jail with two black eyes. He bailed her out the next day. LOL. It’s not funny but it is.

  19. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 9:13 am

    There are women who will go toe to toe with men. And have NO problem with it.

    @V… I got a friend like this…. Her and her ex used to go toe to toe!!!!!!!! And she had no problem with it because she is stronger than all get out and could handle him…….They are no longer together but they have a child together…She’s grown away from that unfortunately he hasn’t. He stay wilin out. He just popped up trying to visit their daughter. Mind you he stay hours away…. They got into it. He SOCKED the mess out of her eye. This time she didn’t fight him back……

    I told her I’m glad that she didn’t. Because it’s no telling what he was on. He could have actually killed her.

  20. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 9:17 am

    They got into it. He SOCKED the mess out of her eye. This time she didn’t fight him back…… .

    Did she call the police?

    PHUCK THAT! If you hit me (ESP. in the face), I’m calling the police. OR having my street team come over and beat your azz. I don’t have a daddy and all these male cousins for nothing.

  21. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 9:27 am

    PHUCK THAT! If you hit me (ESP. in the face), I’m calling the police. OR having my street team come over and beat your azz. I don’t have a daddy and all these male cousins for nothing.

    @V… Girl, that ninja is already out here a fugitive. Running from the law….. Everybody who seen her eye wanted to beat his @zz…. But when he left we assuming he hit 75 South and didn’t look back. I don’t even think he’s been back since……..The thing is he’s real personable. Has everybody fooled… It’s just when that other side come out it’s time to get the hell away from him. Even his parents have called her and apologized like all this time we thought it was you. But we see that it’s our son. They said they don’t even know who he is anymore.

    This fool done shot somebody in the neck before and everything……. He from Memphis and as a result of him I think all people from Memphis is CRAZY… LMAO

  22. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 9:35 am

    “Here is what I find interesting: many folks believe in spanking children. So it’s ok to hit a child, but not a woman? That doesn’t fully register in my book. Which is why I don’t believe in either in MY house.”

    @fornot: I agree with this. I don’t believe in spanking children. We don’t have children yet but we both seem to be on the same page when it comes to disciplining & correcting children. We have friends who do have children and they don’t spank either.

  23. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 9:48 am

    “People should really keep their hands to themselves….”

    @80’s: Agreed.

    “In regards to No More’s Question :whats up with women hitting/breaking/busting windows”

    @NoMore: I agree with 80’s. This is ignorance & an inability to react with more self restraint and sense. People act on emotion and I think someone punching a hole in a wall, breaking a window or throwing objects across the room are displaying warning signs that they may not react well in other situations where physical violence can take place. Some people struggle with anger management and don’t see or consider other avenues for releasing that anger and calming tempers before acting/reacting.

    “…UNLESS (yes a caveat) my life was in danger. If she came at me with a gun or knife etc, I would hit her.”

    @fornot: I think when someone truly fears for his/her life and there is no other way out (if that person can’t safely just walk by the aggressor & walk out to safety and the authorities can’t be called or can’t respond in time), it does then become an issue of survival.

    “But they are now planning a wedding.”

    @V: Wow. I am all for forgiving, taking a break, seeking help and possibly moving on but wow. Do they have children yet? Are either of them concerned about how the other will discipline their children or handle their anger when pushed to the limit as far as their children go?

  24. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 9:49 am

    “I will say that after that incident she stopped drinking. She needed to because alcohol definitely played a factor in it.”

    @V: This is definitely a good start in taking responsibility for her part, making amends & trying to ensure this isn’t a repeat offense.

  25. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 9:53 am

    Do they have children yet? .

    @ Shawnta’ – Together they don’t have kids. He has 2 from a previous marriage.

  26. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 10:12 am

    Caveat: I’m always sensitive about the issue of abuse (all forms) but I saw an advanced screening of Precious last night so I think I’m extra sensitive regarding this issue right now

    @ Shawnta..you mean that Precious maybe was an exception in terms of the way she was treated?

    I think it is also revealing to regarding where people come from; when hitting people becomes the way you’ve seen “problems handled” there is no wonder where it came from. Compassion is important..but I guess i will never understand women co-signing phenom.

  27. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 10:26 am

    “I know I had my moments with the Chris Brown & Rhianna situation like I’m not bout to say anything until I found out Rhi Rhi’s part…… I still think that Rhianna is crazy and came out with her image untarnished…. Still regardless of what happened it should not have escalated to the point that it did”

    @80s..Some women do feel alot sympathy towards Chris more than they do for Rhiamma..maybe it has something to do with his age?? his music?? I still don’t remember all the details…but he beat her up pretty bad..to me there are no excuses..

  28. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 10:28 am

    “you mean that Precious maybe was an exception in terms of the way she was treated?”

    @Comeback: No, I mean that I’m extra sensitive in my argument for why there should be no violence or abuse (any form) in the home…whether it’s adult vs. adult or adult vs child or child vs. child. It does so much to a person’s psyche and the break down of a family. It’s a vicious cycle and definitely an illness that people are ashamed to admit to & seek help.

  29. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 10:30 am

    “Here is what I find interesting: many folks believe in spanking children. So it’s ok to hit a child, but not a woman? That doesn’t fully register in my book. Which is why I don’t believe in either in MY house.”

    @Nottie..I can only count once or twice when I was spanked…and I don’t think it worked LOL..Maybe I’m really new aged about parenting. But I don’t think its about intimidation, I don’t really think its about strong arming or the beat down..so across the board..i personally don’t see a difference either. None of it is really appropriate in my estimation. Especially all that screaming and yelling (usually our folks do) in public at their little kids-which is usually just a parents frustration about their life.

  30. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 10:33 am

    “I think I told yall about one of my friend/associates that was recently engaged. And how she ended up in jail with two black eyes and it made the front paper of her township’s paper. SHE CAME AT HIM WITH 2 KNIVES. I’m not convinced that ol dude had to whoop her azz the way he did, but she came at him with 2 knives. And admitted it. But they are now planning a wedding. LMAO”

    @ Vroom..ok but this is an all around cluster…A) i think SOME men like the ride or die chick..so when it comes time to ride or die in an argument..why would anyone be surprised?

  31. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 10:39 am

    “@Comeback: No, I mean that I’m extra sensitive in my argument for why there should be no violence or abuse (any form) in the home…whether it’s adult vs. adult or adult vs child or child vs. child. It does so much to a person’s psyche and the break down of a family. It’s a vicious cycle and definitely an illness that people are ashamed to admit to & seek help.”

    @Shawnta..thats true..its like projection TIMES 100. When you have tons of frustration and no vehicle..(no blogs lol..no other creative outlets) i suppose another person might become your punching bag, especially when you feel like your opinions and beliefs aren’t respected and or protected.

  32. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 10:44 am

    A) i think SOME men like the ride or die chick..so when it comes time to ride or die in an argument..why would anyone be surprised? .

    He.l.l yeah some men like a ride or die chick. That’s why I said there is someone for everybody. People who like that kind of ish, belong together. They don’t surprise me AT ALL!

  33. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 10:45 am

    Oh and not that this matters, but the couple I am talking about is a 2520 couple.

  34. ForNot
    November 18, 2009 | 10:45 am

    @CBG: I was spanked AND beaten as a child. LOL I got the hand, the switch, and the belt on too many occassions to count. While I can’t say for sure since I don’t know how I’d have behaved without them, I don’t think they helped or made me a better child. If anything, it taught me to be more efficient in hiding my transgressions (and not being open about them) in order to avoid the belt.

    There is definitely a place for s tern grip on a child’s arm while communicating unacceptable behavior. But the “black parent wild-out” has passed its time.

  35. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 10:47 am

    “especially when you feel like your opinions and beliefs aren’t respected”

    @Comeback: I think a lot of violence and abuse stems from a person perceiving that the other person is disrespecting him or her. Some of the things people will say & do to maintain & protect what they see & value as respect…unspeakable. No one wants their respect, pride or dignity questioned or challenged especially when they feel they are (or want to be) the superior one in the relationship..again, adult vs. adult, adult vs child, or sibling vs.sibling.

  36. Shawnta`
    November 18, 2009 | 10:56 am

    “I was spanked AND beaten as a child. LOL I got the hand, the switch, and the belt on too many occassions to count. While I can’t say for sure since I don’t know how I’d have behaved without them, I don’t think they helped or made me a better child. If anything, it taught me to be more efficient in hiding my transgressions (and not being open about them) in order to avoid the belt.”

    @fornot: Perhaps my grandma, mom & aunt are friends of your parents? LOL! Same here. I rec’d lots of whippings when I was younger but in my defense, I usually got them because of my sister (the one closest in age to me) and our three boy cousins. I will say though that I was only spanked a couple of times by a man (my stepfather) and he was much more lenient & sparing with it.

  37. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 11:02 am

    Some of the things people will say & do to maintain & protect what they see & value as respect…unspeakable. .

    Good point.

    I probably got 2 spankings as a child. My sister got a few more than I did. They had no effect on her. She would not cry at all. In fact I cried when she got spankings. LMAO

  38. Bgrits
    November 18, 2009 | 11:14 am

    I agree with No More that no one should be hitting anyone but in terms of self-defense I will beat you down to save my life like ForNot stated.

    I have sympathy for RhiRhi and Chris because both of them grew up in abusive households so it was destined to happen since neither got help.

    I wonder are some black women so desperate to have a man that they will have excuses for an abuser? I say black women because I watched some black women get into an argument with some lLatinas who were protesting Chris Brown’s autograph signing event syaing” Leave our brotha alone!” I heard some women say that since “Chris is cute,famous and rich, she could’ve worked it out”. WTF?

    Concerning whipping kids I think it depends on the child. I got very few as a kid because whippings also had attached punishments with my Super Star Christie doll, girlfriends Barbie and PJ, her convertible and Malibu penthouse taken away so I stayed good most of the time. Time Outs do not work for ALL kids.

    “There aren’t many SURPRISES in relationships particularly with your eyes wide open.”

    @CBG-the question is ” eyes wide open to what?” Too many folks choose to see what they want to see.

    @V-girl that couple is going to be on the show SNAPPED!!

  39. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 11:36 am

    Concerning whipping kids I think it depends on the child. I got very few as a kid because whippings also had attached punishments with my Super Star Christie doll, girlfriends Barbie and PJ, her convertible and Malibu penthouse taken away so I stayed good most of the time. Time Outs do not work for ALL kids. .

    I agree it depends on the child. Whoopings/spankings wouldn’t have worked with me. But if you acted like you were mad and were too angry to talk to me, oh that was the worst for me. I used to HATE having my mama mad at me. :(

  40. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 12:19 pm

    “I wonder are some black women so desperate to have a man that they will have excuses for an abuser? I say black women because I watched some black women get into an argument with some lLatinas who were protesting Chris Brown’s autograph signing event syaing” Leave our brotha alone!” I heard some women say that since “Chris is cute,famous and rich, she could’ve worked it out”. WTF?”

    @ Bmoney This is seriously some ole foolywang.

  41. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 12:22 pm

    “I agree it depends on the child. Whoopings/spankings wouldn’t have worked with me. But if you acted like you were mad and were too angry to talk to me, oh that was the worst for me. I used to HATE having my mama mad at me. :(

    @Vrooom..similiarly..when i did stuff..my mother would make me tell the whole family who came over. Like “ok..explain exactly to your grandmother why you stole Jeff’s crayon box at lunch time”..I HATED THAT..the exposure..and having to think through and then explain why i did it..was just too much..i cared too much about what my family thought about me.

  42. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 1:41 pm

    Soooo what else we got? Or are we done? LMAO

  43. Humble One
    November 18, 2009 | 1:59 pm

    Hello Everyone.

  44. L.P.
    November 18, 2009 | 2:00 pm

    Interesting topic.

    In essence, we should teach ALL of our children that resolving problems using physical violence is NEVER ok. NEVER. Those children will in turn grow up to learn how to spot violence and walk away from it at all costs. And I mean male and female children. They ALL need to be taught that.

    I think the discourse has taken the “caveat” routes lately because apparently the “boys don’t hit girls” message have been disseminated so well that girls have started to get a false sense of security here (and by here I mean the United States, because we are nowhere near a sense of security where I’m from) which in turn made the girls forget that while behavior is taught and learned, human instinct can not be completely removed. A little boy/young man/grown adult man is STILL a human being and is liable to act as such… despite all the training/teaching he has received about good manners.same thing with people adopting those wild animals and expecting them to behave like domestic animals… ie the chimp story Survival instinct is one of the strongest instinct that has made the human species dominate the world… Yes our brans helped, but our brains were only responding to our STRONG survival instinct…

    I am lucky to even know of a place where a woman can expect to be fully covered by the law if she is hit by a man, any man. This isht is not a given. Actually, in the majority of the world it does NOT happen. So let’s avoid doing the mistakes that Gloria Steinem-ist brand of feminism have done: trying to appropriate for ourselves some of the worst traits we’ve seen displayed in men and duplicate them because the law protects us. It belies the point and gets an automatic FAIL.

    People of the world, keep your hands to yourself… unless previously agreed upon by both parties in certain circumstances. ;)

    Howdy y’all?

  45. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 2:04 pm

    same thing with people adopting those wild animals and expecting them to behave like domestic animals… ie the chimp story .

    I quit you!!!

    People of the world, keep your hands to yourself… unless previously agreed upon by both parties in certain circumstances .

    I quit you again. But co-sign. Bwhahahahaha

  46. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 2:05 pm

    What up Humble!! And why don’t you ever talk about the post? You just come in with formalities: Good Afternoon Everyone. Hello People. And that’s it. I WANT MORE! LMAO

  47. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 2:09 pm

    @ Humble..Hi..ok and?? what do you have to say? LOL

  48. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 2:14 pm

    “In essence, we should teach ALL of our children that resolving problems using physical violence is NEVER ok. NEVER. Those children will in turn grow up to learn how to spot violence and walk away from it at all costs. And I mean male and female children. They ALL need to be taught that.”

    @ LP..I really hope that my post didn’t give a bus pass to girls who hit men. But somehow and in some strange reason people can always find the antidotes..these exceptions that WILL always exist.

    “I am lucky to even know of a place where a woman can expect to be fully covered by the law if she is hit by a man, any man.”

    Umm..maybe..the US has laws in place, but let us not forget that sometimes public sentiment and law don’t always coincide.

  49. L.P.
    November 18, 2009 | 2:15 pm

    @V,

    Don’t quiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit me!!! :lol:

    Meanwhile, why did I hear that a mom couldn’t control her 10-yr old daughter so she called the police over. Why did she agree that the police taze that 10 yr old and ultimately why did this police man not capable of restraining a 10 year old without a tazer!!! I am so mad at this story. I swear sometimes I just want to bust people upside the head. Ugh!

  50. L.P.
    November 18, 2009 | 2:18 pm

    @CBG,

    Umm..maybe..the US has laws in place, but let us not forget that sometimes public sentiment and law don’t always coincide.

    I agree with that but at least there is a law… that is enforceable.

    Rape cases get dismissed all the time by courts back home on the premise that the woman went to a enclosed area with the man on her own volition…. Yup. That’s enough reason to dismiss a potential rape case. So public sentiment might be different than actual law, but as long as the law exists we are light years ahead of the curb… Of course, there are still improvements that can and should be made, but like my grandma used to say, you can appreciate what you have while planning for what to have.

  51. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 2:46 pm

    Rape cases get dismissed all the time by courts back home on the premise that the woman went to a enclosed area with the man on her own volition…”

    I agree..but sometimes you have to wonder whats worse..social stigma that sometimes punishes women and deters them from even filing a claim or dispute based on a man and women’s sentiment regarding women being “the problem”..

    laws aren’t very effective when they aren’t tried.

  52. Humble_One
    November 18, 2009 | 2:55 pm

    I don’t condone violence on anyone. At the same time everyone has there tipping point. I don’t understand why some women provoke or try to make men hit them. I’ve heard too many stories of men trying to walk away and she gets even more upset and goes crazy on him. Men shouldn’t women the same way adults shouldn’t hit children. Only in self defense. And you don’t need to beat someone to a pulp to defend yourself. I do think sometimes women take advantage of men not willing to hit them.

  53. No More
    November 18, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    “I am lucky to even know of a place where a woman can expect to be fully covered by the law if she is hit by a man, any man.”

    Is this the same place a man gets thoroughly screwed over any time a woman makes any domestic claim against him, truth and intentions be damned? Thats where I live!

  54. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    Hey people’s…. I just made it back to my desk… And I’m gonna need y’all to check out V’s comment on my post today…

    I am over here cracking up:

    http://ms80sbaby.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/i-am-changing/

    Thanks ;)

  55. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 3:10 pm

    @80s – You are such a hater. LMAO

  56. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 3:12 pm

    I keep reading it like V is a fool…… I don’t know which part is funnier…. You hitting the thang with the hammer, you driving your car off the thang, or you busting through their lil group getting your hammer back…

    I’m just gonna go with all of the above….. HILARIOUS… I can just visualize this clear as day…. LMAO

  57. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 3:18 pm

    You hitting the thang with the hammer, you driving your car off the thang, or you busting through their lil group getting your hammer back… .

    It was all funny a hot azz mess. My roomates weren’t home at the time. Two came home when the police were still outside. They came in like what the hel! is going on.

    To this day, it’s a running joke in my family. When I get mad, my mama’s like “What you gon do, go get your hammer? They don’t know you know how to use that sucker do they?” LOL

  58. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 3:23 pm

    When I get mad, my mama’s like “What you gon do, go get your hammer? They don’t know you know how to use that sucker do they?” LOL

    @V… ha ha ha ha Ha Ha ha……. FUNNY!!!!!!!!! I’mma make sure I keep all hammers away from you….. LMAO…. But mama’s be knowing man…. When I made it back to my seat my mama was like what happened. I told her.. The first thing she said was what u do????…. I was like I held it in. She talkin about good job.. She already knew I was this close to having a moment.

  59. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 3:25 pm

    …. When I made it back to my seat my mama was like what happened. I told her.. The first thing she said was what u do????…. I was like I held it in. She talkin about good job.. .

    LMAO!!!

    Was this at UC? How was the game? Did they win?

  60. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 3:33 pm

    Was this at UC? How was the game? Did they win?

    @V… Yes it was there…… We lost… It was a good game though.. My 2nd half was ruined though.. Thanks to the blue vest wanna be cops…

  61. V Renee
    November 18, 2009 | 4:07 pm

    Alright yall. I have to go to this dinner meeting WTF thingamajigga with the boss man. Yall pray for me.

  62. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 4:11 pm

    Have fun V!!!!!!!!

  63. thecomebackgirl
    November 18, 2009 | 4:20 pm

    @ Vroom why do i feel like this boss dude has some kind of crush on you..

    @ 80s i commented..it took me lunch and break to get me through 80s dissertation.

  64. 80s
    November 18, 2009 | 4:28 pm

    @Comeback…. I was over here cracking up at V…. LOL… I think your cop might have had a lil crush on you….. ;)

  65. L.P.
    November 18, 2009 | 5:03 pm

    @CBG,

    @ Vroom why do i feel like this boss dude has some kind of crush on you..

    That’s because he does! Lol! The dude invited her in his boat! LMAO.

    @80’s,
    I did a blog in your comment section as well… made me relive some very intense moments.

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