Steve McNair: Sports & The Other Woman

Mechelle (Steve) McNair & son Trenton

Mechelle (Steve) McNair & son Trenton

Its no secret that I detest sports, now I’m starting to feel like I have a better reason. Though the particulars about Steve McNair and the details surrounding his death are still sketchy, I think its well believed that he and Sahel Kazemi were in fact a couple.

As I peruse some of the news stories and associated comment sections, I’m utterly speechless at some of the heartless comments. I don’t believe that McNair deserved to be murdered even if Kazemi was his mistress.

What I don’t understand is the ho!eish aura around professional sports. What I understand even less is why are these dudes even encouraged to get married and start families if they are still in the a!zz getting phase? And why some of the older “faithful veterans” , like the Grant Hills and Magic Johnsons (*), don’t pull their a!zz on the carpet about it. I have read other rumors that he and his wife were having marital trouble. The last time I checked though marital trouble wasn’t a signal to find a mistress, it is a time to work on your marriage or leave.

The other part of this story that I find troubling are all the sanctimonious comments from women about the alleged mistress, Kazemi. Most really smart women over the age of 25 know that “unavailable men” (married/separated) are your rite of passage. I knew I was a smart cookie when I figured out a separated man is STILL married, even with his own apartment and newly found freedom. I also figured out that those aren’t the men typically ready for commitment and a one on one relationship. And I wasn’t going to be the exception.

Ever. No matter how hot I thought I was at 25.

(*) Magic Johnson paid a serious price for his previous ho!eish tendancies, but its also well noted that he waited to marry Cookie to get the “ho!eishness” out of his system.

No Responses to Steve McNair: Sports & The Other Woman
  1. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 6:14 am

    Hey Treehousers!

    Now they are saying the mistress was shot too, and it could possibly be a murder/ suicide.

    I agree with you Comeback. I think the older veterans don’t say anything about it bc they don’t want to seem like Kobe with tattling.

    “knew I was a smart cookie when I figured out a separated man is STILL married, even with his own apartment and newly found freedom. I also figured out that those aren’t the men typically ready for commitment and a one on one relationship. And I wasn’t going to be the exception.”

    AMEN. I don’t understand why a woman would try to steal another’s blessing. I’ve heard reasons for it until I’m blue in the face but it still doesn’t make sense.

  2. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 8:03 am

    Good Morning!!!

    What I don’t understand is the ho!eish aura around professional sports. .

    Groupies!!! **To be honest if I was in a position where men were literally throwing draws at me, I would have to question whether I could be faithful. Temptation is a mofo. I know people will say well just don’t get married. And that’s the “right” thing to do, but what if you want it all. The money, cars, h@es….I just want to be successful (wkcite Drake). Ha.

    I don’t believe that McNair deserved to be murdered even if Kazemi was his mistress. .

    Me either! People who say ish like that drive me crazy. Most of the time they have their own things going on in the dark, where if exposed, someone could say they “deserved” for something terrible to happen.

    ** – is there even such a thing as male groupies

  3. In route to the chi!
    July 6, 2009 | 8:21 am

    Im dyin at u V for that work site!! I thought u might have needed a day or two to rest before u started up again lol.

    Hey yall!!!!!

    I think the girlfriend got upset because he wanted to break it off. She said what the hell u mean i cant keep the escalade??? Pow!!

  4. Mikki
    July 6, 2009 | 8:22 am

    My bad

  5. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 8:29 am

    @ Mikki – And you talk about me, while saying stuff like this: She said what the hell u mean i cant keep the escalade??? Pow!! . Ha! I can’t take you!

    I am interested to know if it was a murder-suicide. And since he had multiple gun shots, I’m assuming she did the killing. Maybe he told her he wanted to work things out with his wife?!?!

  6. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 8:31 am

    Wow!

    I don’t think she killed him. There’s a lot more to it than that. I think its more like I’m mad @ you but I’m going to calm and riddle you with bullets BUT for her one calm bullet?

    I think this is gonna be one hell of a matrix.

  7. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:33 am

    “I think the older veterans don’t say anything about it bc they don’t want to seem like Kobe with tattling”

    @ Sunny…I dont think it has to come off like that…just like those dudes pull their guys up on the bus ride or plane home when they play badly, pull them up when they behave badly, it can be discreet and when its done the public doesn’t have to know about it.

  8. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:37 am

    @ Vroom

    “To be honest if I was in a position where men were literally throwing draws at me ”

    Honestly, I would think what are these dudes tryna give me…I’d be a little more paranoid like…its a set up or something. I don’t know that would just be bizarre (and how you doin’)..men throwing their underwear at you???? Attention is one thing, admiration is great also…but a gazillion people tryna to sleep with me…thats not hot.

  9. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:38 am

    :I think the girlfriend got upset because he wanted to break it off. She said what the hell u mean i cant keep the escalade??? Pow!!:

    That is TERRIBLE..Mik

  10. Mikki
    July 6, 2009 | 8:38 am

    Lol V im just sayin. I think he wanted to end it. Heck i might just get crazy to on u( not kill) but i would be a lil ticked off if one day i go from working at dave n busters to sayin tootooluuumuthafuckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas. Gettin an escalade then dumped and embarassed cuz i told my friends i was dating and gonna marry a baller and be like the girls on the tv show game then back to drivin a festiva working at dennys.

  11. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:39 am

    “There’s a lot more to it than that. I think its more like I’m mad @ you but I’m going to calm and riddle you with bullets BUT for her one calm bullet?”

    WHAT??? how do you calm somebody down with a bullet?? without mudering them??

  12. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:41 am

    how was the chi?

  13. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 8:45 am

    Attention is one thing, admiration is great also…but a gazillion people tryna to sleep with me…thats not hot. .

    Agreed. That’s why I questioned if there was even such a thing as male groupies.

    I just feel that as a man, it’s hard to resist the temptation that is thrown in their face consistently….i.e. Pastors sleeping with multiple women in the congregation, h*eism in professionsal/college sports, entertainers + multiple baby mamas (Lil Wayne).

  14. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 8:47 am

    @ CBG – The Chi was great! Everyone is as great offline as they are online. Lots of laughing. You should have came :(

  15. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:47 am

    “I just feel that as a man, it’s hard to resist the temptation that is thrown in their face consistently”

    @ Vroom..i think its all how you think about it….I think most men sow their wild oats at some point in their life. And to me..i would think all that a!zz gets old. And I would also think tons and tons of it, would be very expensive and a conspiracy.

  16. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:48 am

    “You should have came ”

    I’m def. at the next one that I think LP is planning???!! if I have to leave my job to do it. I probably shouldnt have made flight and hotel reservations on a weds but two-three months ago i thought it would be cool.

  17. Mikki
    July 6, 2009 | 8:49 am

    Lol V u are right. I think if u marry a man in the spot light you have to already know what comes with it. It doesnt make it right tho.

    Would any of you guys date or marry a famous person ?

  18. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 8:53 am

    Would any of you guys date or marry a famous person ? .

    NO!!! Back in my younger days (Palin wink), I may have 1 nighted 1 or 2 of them. But date seriously, nope! I wouldn’t date a pastor either. Or politician.

  19. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 8:56 am

    Good morning y’all……

    Although the news don’t want to come out and say it… I think it was a murder suicide….

    @ Comeback…. The Chi was great… We definitely missed you….

  20. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 8:59 am

    “Would any of you guys date or marry a famous person ?”

    @ Mik..yeah..i don’t think its as much about the fame as much as how he thinks about it.

    Alot of famous people think they are absolved from certain things, like just being honest, habitial affairs is an integrity issue…thats not necessarily a bi-product of being an entertainer or an athlete and i think the excuses people make about it just perpetuate bad behavior.

    What about that wife that follows her husband to all the games and side-eye’s all the groupies..I cant think of her name???? But she don’t play that…and the husband doesn’t either.

    I mean there are good guys in high profile positions..thats like saying Obama probably has a woman on the side. I think it entirely depends on the man.

  21. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:01 am

    “@ Comeback…. The Chi was great”

    hi 80s..im waiting for the approved facebook pics. I already saw Mik and Sunny..cute pics.

  22. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:02 am

    Comeback I know of the woman you are talking about, she is serious lol. Think is, if u tolerate it the man will do it. if u say just don’t bring me back no sh*t thats probably the only thing he wont do lol.

  23. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:03 am

    Comeback I getting read to load more now.

    V are yours up?

  24. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 9:05 am

    @CBG

    I enjoyed seeing everyone for lunch.

    I wish I could have spent more time. But I had too much family stuff and still didn’t finish and I’m en route to Birmingham.

  25. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:05 am

    hi 80s..im waiting for the approved facebook pics. I already saw Mik and Sunny..cute pics.

    @Comeback…. I only have like 3 pics….LOL I plan on stealing everybody else’s… Some of the best shots are gonna be from one of the YaYa’s disposables….LMAO…. lol

  26. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:10 am

    lol 80’s i can’t wait to see them pics from the disposables! I need for her to appear in the treehouse NOW!

  27. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 9:10 am

    @Mik

    I think you’re right. When you say “don’t bring anything home” its like *grab condom*

    There’s still a large matter is disrespect. That’s what I’m requesting…I need you to respect me. I don’t give a d*mn about money, power and stuff along those lines.

  28. Damon
    July 6, 2009 | 9:12 am

    I don’t think it’s about sports. It’s about people having power and knowing it. It’s bigger than sports. It’s politics, actors, rich people, random celebs, musicians, fraternity members on college campuses.

    At any point that people fawn over you and you have power, you will have trim waiting on you. And the more of it that is waiting on you, the chances you jump at it rise tenfold.

    The flesh is weak. Ask Mark Sanford.

  29. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:15 am

    V are yours up? .

    I didn’t have a camera. It was my friends. Ha! We share a camera….although I think she’s just now becoming aware of the fact.

    I’ma try to get her to put the pics up today.

  30. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:16 am

    At any point that people fawn over you and you have power, you will have trim waiting on you. And the more of it that is waiting on you, the chances you jump at it rise tenfold. .

    I agree!

  31. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:16 am

    @ 80s – Some of the best shots are gonna be from one of the YaYa’s disposables….LMAO…. lol .

    Ummmm weren’t you hating on the disposable though?!?! LMAO

  32. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:21 am

    Ummmm weren’t you hating on the disposable though?!?! LMAO

    @V. Renee…. I sure was…. But I’m talking about her random action shots…. Man on crutches in the street among other things…. LOL

  33. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:21 am

    lmao V u are killin me and so are you 80’s with 3 pictures!!! I thought u was actually shooting stuff with that thing!!

    im so dead at booof of yall!

  34. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:22 am

    “I don’t think it’s about sports. It’s about people having power and knowing it. It’s bigger than sports. It’s politics, actors, rich people, random celebs, musicians, fraternity members on college campuses.”

    I disagree with this on many accounts.

    ..i don’t think ANYTHING is wrong with having your taste of the ladies (or men), as long as its upfront and not putting anybody at physical risk. My problem are for people to excuse the “famous” married people as apart of being “important and fawned over”.

    I would agree that its much larger than sports and entertainment…but there is an “understanding” that players are PLAYERS and in many ways its apart of the game..last time i checked that kind of behavior is not ingrained in being a politican. You don’t sow your oats in the senate or the governors mansion.

  35. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:22 am

    Yea Jesus on a bike

  36. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:25 am

    @ Mik – Yea Jesus on a bike .

    OMG I can’t stop laughing. We thought they were bringing us Nicki. Instead they brought us Jesus on a bike. hahahahahaha

  37. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:31 am

    ” And why some of the older “faithful veterans” , like the Grant Hills and Magic Johnsons (*), don’t pull their a!zz on the carpet about it.”

    Why should they put these dudes on blast? That’s violating the rules.

    “Most really smart women over the age of 25 know that “unavailable men” (married/separated) are your rite of passage. I knew I was a smart cookie when I figured out a separated man is STILL married, even with his own apartment and newly found freedom. I also figured out that those aren’t the men typically ready for commitment and a one on one relationship. And I wasn’t going to be the exception.”

    It’s funny you say that. My boy just told me a story of what happened to this woman he is dealing with. She is over 30 and was dealing with a married man. That situation got real ugly over the weekend.

  38. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:33 am

    “” And why some of the older “faithful veterans” , like the Grant Hills and Magic Johnsons (*), don’t pull their a!zz on the carpet about it.”

    Why should they put these dudes on blast? That’s violating the rules.

    @ Hummy…I think its very telling that “pulling someone on the carpet” means to “put them on blast”…like I wrote to Vroom, in my opinion it should ALWAYS be about discretion. Just like they blast each other when they fumble a play on the plane or bus…make it known in their little inner circle that cheating is just as wack as causing their team to lose a game.

  39. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:34 am

    “She is over 30 and was dealing with a married man. That situation got real ugly over the weekend”

    what happen???

    btw humble thank u for that pic u sent us!! u are so sexxxxieeee!!

  40. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:35 am

    “It’s funny you say that. My boy just told me a story of what happened to this woman he is dealing with. She is over 30 and was dealing with a married man. That situation got real ugly over the weekend.”

    I think some dudes are going to get fearful…just because of this McNair case, not out of any feelings of right and wrong.

    again nothing is wrong with doing your thing and being wild and free…but be honest..thats not necessarily the life of a married man.

  41. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:36 am

    @V Renee
    “Ummmm weren’t you hating on the disposable though?!?!”

    Why would she hate? Dave keeps her 100 steps behind in technology anyway. She just stopped using one of those accordian cameras.

  42. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:37 am

    I just checked and it’s actually 5 pics from dinner Thursday night…. And that’s it… When everybody else have cameras I never pull mine’s out… LOL

  43. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:39 am

    “Why would she hate? Dave keeps her 100 steps behind in technology anyway. She just stopped using one of those accordian cameras”

    haha very funny it wasn’t even ME see there!!!!!!!

    this killed me for the day

  44. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:39 am

    OMG I can’t stop laughing. We thought they were bringing us Nicki. Instead they brought us Jesus on a bike. hahahahahaha

    @V and Mik… That’s what y’all get for assuming….. I told y’all to come and see how we were gonna pull up….

  45. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:40 am

    @Mik
    “what happen???”

    guns were drawn, cars were wrecked, and people got yoked up.

    “btw humble thank u for that pic u sent us!! u are so sexxxxieeee!!”

    Thank You! Women always say that when they see my pic. Especially that one.

  46. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:40 am

    Why would she hate? Dave keeps her 100 steps behind in technology anyway. She just stopped using one of those accordian cameras. .

    LMAO. It was actually another yaya that had the disposable and 80s was hating on it. Mik has a digital and a iPhone. I think Dave has been cutting her some slack lately. Ha!

  47. Damon
    July 6, 2009 | 9:41 am

    @comeback:

    Re: My last comment

    If Players are PLAYERS, you have to look at the women in these situations as well. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY’RE getting themselves into from the jump.

    They know that they won’t stop these guys from doing what they do. But they want the comfort that comes with being married to someone like McNair.

    I’m definitely not saying that’s what his wife did. But I know it happens all of the time. All of the time. And it’s the woman as much as it is the man because all parties understand what’s going on…

    There’s a part of me that highly questions whether Mechelle McNair cared that much about his extramarital exploits. There’s a chance this had been going on since they met.

    But she love him and cared about his life, for whatever reason. That’s gone. And no matter how you slice it, that sucks.

  48. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:42 am

    @Comeback
    “I think some dudes are going to get fearful…just because of this McNair case, not out of any feelings of right and wrong.”

    Fearful? Yeah right. You really don’t understand the lengths some men will go for @ss. The story my boy told me is evidence of it.

  49. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:42 am

    guns were drawn, cars were wrecked, and people got yoked up. .

    ummm wow. And this is why creeping with married people is EXTRA risky. There was a pastor here that was shot about a year ago, because he was creeping with a married chick. People don’t be playing about their husbands/wives.

  50. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:42 am

    “Mik has a digital and a iPhone. I think Dave has been cutting her some slack lately. Ha!”

    dead again!! V i QUIT YOU!!!!

  51. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:42 am

    “btw humble thank u for that pic u sent us!! u are so sexxxxieeee!!”

    @Hummy…. That picture was not SEXY… But your voice was…. LMAO ;)

  52. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:46 am

    “I think some dudes are going to get fearful…just because of this McNair case, not out of any feelings of right and wrong.” .

    I don’t think they are going to get fearful either.

    make it known in their little inner circle that cheating is just as wack as causing their team to lose a game. .

    Which one is going to be pulling coat tails?? Maybe it’s just me, but I think all a great deal of married sports players cheat.

  53. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:46 am

    This post is kind of stepping on my toes but I’m pleading the 1234 5th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 9:49 am

    This post is kind of stepping on my toes but I’m pleading the 1234 5th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .

    Ummm why would you put this out here, and then say you are pleading the 5th!!

    Does this have to do with your “disappearance”? They don’t call you Danger for nothing huh?

  55. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:50 am

    Does this have to do with your “disappearance”? They don’t call you Danger for nothing huh?

    @V…. You on the right track and I was a praying somebody…. Like what have I got myself into…….

  56. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:51 am

    “There’s a part of me that highly questions whether Mechelle McNair cared that much about his extramarital exploits. There’s a chance this had been going on since they met. ”

    @ D..there is apart of me that feels this phenom is more systemic than all interested parties. The “GAME” of sports particularly with black players does not support family. And I’m not saying it should be mandated too. But there is almost a message to these players that really touts physical and se!xual prowess…thats not compatible with being 36 + and having a wife and kids. And its like the players that keep their noses clean reportedly look the other way and feel good that at least its not them.

    But I would also tend to agree that ALOT of women love being apart of this scene. Its never impressed me and I think its funny when these guys come into establishments with MEN AND WOMEN Falling all over themselves and I’m like “who are you??”

    im not really sure what the answer is in the end. But I do think women need to start thinking about what these dudes really represent and what they mean. I mean you work long enough and at the right job, anybody can buy a dayum esclade if thats what floats your boat. Same thing for all the other material stuff.

    I just like to have my peice of mind in the process.

  57. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 9:52 am

    ok YALL My portion of the pics are UP!!

    V that one with me u and no no is gonna be one of my favorites

    too bad 80’s couldn’t be in it, she was to busy running from lil man….

  58. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:53 am

    @V Renee
    “ummm wow. And this is why creeping with married people is EXTRA risky. There was a pastor here that was shot about a year ago, because he was creeping with a married chick. People don’t be playing about their husbands/wives.”

    Right. She flipped on him. But that is what happens when you tell women what they want to hear and sale them a dream. On the same note women should be able to see when a man is doing those things.

  59. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:54 am

    she was to busy running from lil man….

    @mik…. I was running from Holly’s comment about lil man… I had to quit her for the that… She was soooooooooo wrong…

  60. thecomebackgirl
    July 6, 2009 | 9:56 am

    “Fearful? Yeah right. You really don’t understand the lengths some men will go for @ss.”

    And thats what I don’t understand…my attention span is so dayum short…i don’t understand why its gotta come with so much drama.

    Nobody said your ho!e azz HAD to be married. For what? I respect a man who either just isn’t ready or just can’t commit. There’s nothing wrong with that. But to go through all the roller coaster rides for a!zz to me is LESS about the a!zz and more about the roller coaster..

    Some men LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE drama, confusion and chaos.

  61. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 9:56 am

    @Mik

    That pic is a mess.

    When I saw No’s face I was like omg..but still thought it was FUNNY!

  62. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 9:56 am

    @80s
    “That picture was not SEXY… But your voice was…. LMAO”

    I thought you said I sound funny? Was it you that said I didn’t sound like I come from where I am?

  63. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 9:59 am

    I thought you said I sound funny? Was it you that said I didn’t sound like I come from where I am?

    @Hummy…. I didn’t say you sounded funny… You just didn’t sound like othere people who I’ve talked from the D….. You sounded more like you were from the East Coast…

  64. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 10:08 am

    @80s
    “I didn’t say you sounded funny… You just didn’t sound like othere people who I’ve talked from the D….. You sounded more like you were from the East Coast…”

    I just don’t have traces of a southern accent like a lot of people from here. My family came to north a long time ago.

  65. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 10:10 am

    I just don’t have traces of a southern accent like a lot of people from here. My family came to north a long time ago.

    @Hummy….. Gotcha…. Thanks for the explanation…. We missed ya though. If you ever decide to reveal your identity you gonna have to make a trip…. We had a lot of fun.

  66. the champ
    July 6, 2009 | 10:12 am

    “last time i checked that kind of behavior is not ingrained in being a politican. You don’t sow your oats in the senate or the governors mansion.”

    i think you’re forgetting an important distinction between professional athletes and politicians. the vast majority of most pro athletes are in their 20’s, while a politicans career doesnt really count until he’s at least 35 (and married). point being, its much easier for a 45 year old to pass up groupie snatch than a 25 year old.

    also, and i think damon mentioned this upthread, but this type of behavior isn’t synonymous with athletes as much as men with status and power. of course, not all prominent men are philanderers, but its a but silly to think that the type of ambition, drive, and competitiveness that makes someone able to be the governor of arizona or the head of def jam or the starting quarterback for the miami dolphins only affects their professional lives. many (not all) treat their personal lives the exact same way, and this includes an everlasting pursuit of happiness, and by “happiness” i mean “new p*ssy”

  67. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 10:13 am

    Some men LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE drama, confusion and chaos. .

    I agree with this too. And I do agree that if your azz wants to sow your oats, then you shouldn’t get married. I just think people want it all. They want the wife and kids, but they also want to be able to “get it in” on the side. The best of both worlds. And not just men in position where azz is thrown to them on the regular.

    Married men are OUT here. Rings on display and all, talking about, they should be able to have friends. And the reason they are able to do so is because there are and will always be a woman that falls for it.

  68. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 10:17 am

    When I saw No’s face I was like omg..but still thought it was FUNNY! .

    I had no idea he had slapped on them glasses and made that face until I saw the picture Mik uploaded. I love it though!

    while a politicans career doesnt really count until he’s at least 35 (and married). .

    This is saying alot. I believe to be a successful politican, it’s almost mandatory to be married. Unless you’re gay. And I agree Power = P*ssy. Jesse Jackson, Bill Cosby, MLK, Senator Craig (okay maybe he bats for the other team but still), Spritzer (sp?)….the list goes on.

  69. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 10:25 am

    ok I just figured out that guy was david oliver in that picture!! gosh wow he is fizzzine!!!!!

  70. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 10:26 am

    “Married men are OUT here. Rings on display and all, talking about, they should be able to have friends”

    In the words of all the women in my family “n!gga what?”

  71. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 10:27 am

    I had to run to the doctor but like Freddy, I’m baaa-aaacck.

  72. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 10:30 am

    @V

    Girl yes…any man with power too…school principal…manager @ Walmart and snitches really think they doing something!

  73. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:31 am

    “i think you’re forgetting an important distinction between professional athletes and politicians.”

    @ champ..i think we’re all forgetting and refusing to acknowledge the dark underworld of professional sports. Perhaps there is also one in politics to (with the same associations you make with age). there is something very intoxicating about power, equally so in what used to be the highest level most black men could reach.

    And I think it should all be discussed. And not excused. I think there is just an unwritten understanding about the life of a professional athlete that doesn’t get the same turned eye that a politican does.

    And if power=pu!ssy…please tell me why he didn’t get the bentley version. I mean you gonna play those kinds of games with a!zz GET THE ABSOLUTE BEST YOU CAN FIND. Not some 20 year old drunk waitress.

  74. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 10:33 am

    ok I just figured out that guy was david oliver in that picture!! gosh wow he is fizzzine!!!!!

    @Mik… Y’all wasn’t listening to me when we took the pic then!!!!!!!!! When Holly was talking to Lance like I know who you are cause of the show I looked at David like I know who you are because I watched you at the Olympics…… Ooohhhh Lawd that boy is fine….

  75. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:35 am

    who is david oliver?

  76. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 10:35 am

    The Champ: “this type of behavior isn’t synonymous with athletes as much as men with status and power. of course, not all prominent men are philanderers, but its a but silly to think that the type of ambition, drive, and competitiveness that makes someone able to be the governor of arizona or the head of def jam or the starting quarterback for the miami dolphins only affects their professional lives.”

    Cosign. Many ambitious men will be ambitious in all areas. And when you are making seven figures, or you have a large constituency, the most beautiful women are always trying to get at you. Married or not, it can be hard to turn down. Doesn’t make it right, but when a woman that looks like Esther Baxter is all up on you, some guys just take the L. Or W, depending on your point of view.

  77. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:35 am

    let me google.

  78. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 10:36 am

    who is david oliver?

    @Comeback….. A fine track star who was in the 08 Olympics……

  79. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:36 am

    “the most beautiful women are always trying to get at you. ”

    So what about the broke, not so cute 20 year olds…can somebody riddle me that?

  80. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:39 am

    “the most beautiful women are always trying to get at you. Married or not, it can be hard to turn down.

    So what about the broke, not so cute 20 year olds…can somebody riddle me that?

  81. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 10:39 am

    lmao 80’s I didn’t even hear you girl I been trying to google who he was for 30 minutes, then i typed in lance’s friends and he popped up in a picture with him lance and some girl and they both didn’t have on shirts!!!

    I almost passed out !!!

  82. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 10:41 am

    CBG: “So what about the broke, not so cute 20 year olds…can somebody riddle me that?”

    I can’t. When I saw the chick Kobe cheated with, and the woman that Eric Benet cheated on Halle Berry, all I could do is shake my head. I know many guys believe in the mantra “pu$$y don’t have a face”, but I don’t understand creeping with a woman that looks like a young Sealy.

  83. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 10:42 am

    lmao 80’s I didn’t even hear you girl I been trying to google who he was for 30 minutes, then i typed in lance’s friends and he popped up in a picture with him lance and some girl and they both didn’t have on shirts!!!

    @Mik…. Because all of y’all was trying to play my man….That’s why the other dude was like ya’ll don’t watch sports??… And you was like well I don’t watch a lot of tv so who is he…… I was rolling….

  84. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 10:42 am

    “but I don’t understand creeping with a woman that looks like a young Sealy”

    I am officially done!!!

  85. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 10:44 am

    I can’t. When I saw the chick Kobe cheated with, and the woman that Eric Benet cheated on Halle Berry .

    Who is the chick that Eric Benet cheated on Halle with?

    I thought the so called rule was that you can’t cheat with someone who doesn’t look as good if not better than wifey. At least this is what one of my homeboys stated.

  86. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 10:44 am

    “And you was like well I don’t watch a lot of tv so who is he…… I was rolling…”

    ahaha !! that is so funny, I didn’t even have a tv when the Olympics was going on last year so I really should get a pass.

  87. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 10:48 am

    V: “Who is the chick that Eric Benet cheated on Halle with?”

    Some plain jane, run-of-the-mill, average, everyday looking chick.

    V: “I thought the so called rule was that you can’t cheat with someone who doesn’t look as good if not better than wifey.”

    Obviously that’s not the case. It’s not easy to upgrade from Halle Berry or Vanessa Bryant.

  88. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 10:50 am

    It’s not easy to upgrade from Halle Berry or Vanessa Bryant.

    @Hugh… I disagree with you on Vanessa Bryant….I don’t see what all the hype is about her…. She a knock off Kim K if you ask me.

  89. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:51 am

    “I can’t. When I saw the chick Kobe cheated with, and the woman that Eric Benet cheated on Halle Berry, all I could do is shake my head. I know many guys believe in the mantra “pu$$y don’t have a face”, but I don’t understand creeping with a woman that looks like a young Sealy.”

    This is why I’ve come to know that its NOT about the chick…maybe the unfortunate looking ones are the ones who have something to prove as the lolita…And they over compensate in other departments which make then irresistible to these men.

    But again to me its not an excuse. These liasons come with a HUGE price…I’m almost tempted to go undercover as a black male blogger…i think there might be some simlarities LOL……….

  90. Damon
    July 6, 2009 | 10:51 am

    @comeback:

    Vajayjay is vajayjay. If it’s clean and std-free, there are plenty of men who will just get squirrelly. That’s real talk.

    If a man knows what he can do (i.e., power), he’s more likely to do it. Same can be said for women … think of the gold digger.

    It’s not about sports. It’s just that it’s prevalent in that arena. Just like it’s prevalent on college campuses with fraternities. And with politicians. And celebrities. And with young, upwardly mobile black men period. It’s not just sports.

  91. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 10:55 am

    Hey, y’all. Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend & a great time in Chicago.

    It’s really sad to see marriages fall apart. I think this is especially sad in the McNair situation because that is an awful way to die and have your indiscretions exposed. Perhaps his wife, friends and close family did know but now the entire world knows. People who thought he was a good husband and father…a family man, probably never saw this coming.

    I think it’s worse when the wives that are cheated on were there from the very beginning (high school or college sweethearts) BEFORE these athletes, musicians, etc. made it big. They were there before these men had the money, fame and celebrity. Perhaps it is because they saw the potential and knew where it could lead but NOTHING is guaranteed. It makes me think of Mel Gibson, Dwayne Wade, Steve McNair…no, we don’t know all the details and yes, we are outsiders looking in but the wives in these situations were there long before the money and fame rolled in. Men claim they don’t want gold diggers and they feel as if women are only with them because of who they are and what they have but what do they expect when they’re cheating on the women that were there before all of this came to be a reality?

    @cbg: I agree. A lot of people see men and women that are separated as not being married but of course, they still are. A lot of people were giving Tameka Raymond flack for still wearing her wedding ring and for referring to Usher as her husband when she spoke of him or tweeted about him…and maybe she is in denial (as the tabloids & others on Twitter were saying she is) but until the divorce is final she IS still married and he IS still her husband. So, why shouldn’t she continue wearing her wedding ring until she’s ready to take it off and refer to him as “my husband” when speaking about him? It may seem strange but it makes sense to me. And although I don’t think this will happen here, how many separations & divorces are initiated and then not followed through on?

  92. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 10:55 am

    “It’s not just sports.”

    I understand that..but it seems ACCEPTABLE…almost like a don’t ask don’t tell..its just how it is..there is something a little bizarre to me in that.

    “Vajayjay is vajayjay. If it’s clean and std-free, there are plenty of men who will just get squirrelly. That’s real talk.”

    I disagree…I’ve heard men say (overheard..) that after a certain age/and amount of chicks..it just gets old and a!zz becomes just a!zz..

  93. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 10:56 am

    “@ Sunny…I dont think it has to come off like that…just like those dudes pull their guys up on the bus ride or plane home when they play badly, pull them up when they behave badly, it can be discreet and when its done the public doesn’t have to know about it.”

    I agree with you- that’s how it should be done, but I just don’t think they will do it…. seems like a waaaay older guy would do that, like a grandpa or something though.

  94. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 10:57 am

    “Would any of you guys date or marry a famous person ?”

    No way!

  95. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 10:57 am

    BTW…Dorothy Dandridge was very pretty. Great pic.

  96. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 10:58 am

    And with young, upwardly mobile black men period. It’s not just sports. .

    True!! In all areas of life. But who doesn’t want an attractive upwardly moblie black man?!?!

  97. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 10:58 am

    V, I could not marry a pastor either. I’d feel like my every move would be scrutinized.

    “Did yaw see Sister Pastorwife in traffic? She gave me the finger.” lol

  98. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 10:58 am

    “Would any of you guys date or marry a famous person ?”

    “No way!”

    @Nicki: But what if he wasn’t famous when you met him and you didn’t realize that he may one day become rich (or wealthy) & famous? Would you then leave him if he became famous?

  99. Damon
    July 6, 2009 | 11:01 am

    @comeback:

    I don’t think it’s acceptable as much as people just turn there heads at it because it’s been going on for forever. That doesn’t make it right, but how do you stop people from committing adultery when they have that option? …

    … and to some guys, moonfruit becomes moonfruit … but to some, the game never changes. Look at Hugh Heff.

  100. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 11:03 am

    just like those dudes pull their guys up on the bus ride or plane home when they play badly, pull them up when they behave badly, it can be discreet and when its done the public doesn’t have to know about it .

    Even if someone were to tell, what is going to change?? It’s not a secret to anyone…..including the wife.

  101. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:04 am

    What we have here is a serious lack of integrity, and not just on the ‘rich man who can get away with it’ part, but also these lil stank @ss groupies/goldiggers.

    My question is WHY BOTHER getting married if there is a good percentage that you will not stay faithful? WHAT IS THE POINT? Ain’t nobody putting a gun to these men’s heaqd and forcing them to lie before GOD and their families…NOBODY.

    And these women chasing married men are just as bad. How you could willingly particpate in the destruction of another’s home (no matter the shitty circumstances he will try to convince you of), makes me wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror each day. Black families are ALREADY struggling…they don’t need anymore help in being destroyed.

    Just uggghhhhh!

  102. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:05 am

    “@cbg: I agree. A lot of people see men and women that are separated as not being married but of course, they still are. A lot of people were giving Tameka Raymond flack for still wearing her wedding ring and for referring to Usher as her husband when she spoke of him or tweeted about him…and maybe she is in denial (as the tabloids & others on Twitter were saying she is) but until the divorce is final she IS still married and he IS still her husband. So, why shouldn’t she continue wearing her wedding ring until she’s ready to take it off and refer to him as “my husband” when speaking about him? It may seem strange but it makes sense to me. And although I don’t think this will happen here, how many separations & divorces are initiated and then not followed through on?”

    @ Shawnta..

    thats true ..i feel bad for Tameka tho..I think Usher married her again, because of the elixer..i mean I STILL do stuff that my mother disagrees with and get a little rush about it too. LOL..i think this marriage was the only way he knew to signal his independance to his momma..instead of saying, Ma, Im like almost 30 you need to back off a little bit..he MARRIED A WOMAN that wasn’t well suited for him.

  103. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 11:06 am

    “And these women chasing married men are just as bad. How you could willingly particpate in the destruction of another’s home (no matter the shitty circumstances he will try to convince you of), makes me wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror each day. Black families are ALREADY struggling…they don’t need anymore help in being destroyed.”

    @Jada: This is so true. It’s one thing for a woman not to know a married man has approached her or that she’s approached a married man (since everyone doesn’t wear their wedding rings at all times) but to actually KNOW and not care…or to later FIND OUT and continue on??? Craziness.

  104. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 11:06 am

    But what if he wasn’t famous when you met him and you didn’t realize that he may one day become rich (or wealthy) & famous? Would you then leave him if he became famous? .

    Hmmmmmm. Possibly. I would probably wait until I got accustomed to a certain lifestyle, so I could claim that in court. Ha!

    Naw but if he got famous and started acting the fool, I would probably leave. Or at least start banging the pool boy (if he was cute). Ha. I kid I kid

  105. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 11:06 am

    @Comeback and Hugh Jazz
    ““So what about the broke, not so cute 20 year olds…can somebody riddle me that?”

    I can’t. When I saw the chick Kobe cheated with, and the woman that Eric Benet cheated on Halle Berry, all I could do is shake my head. I know many guys believe in the mantra “pu$$y don’t have a face”, but I don’t understand creeping with a woman that looks like a young Sealy.”

    I don’t get it either. But I do know that some men take it how they get it. I just have never lusted for @ss that hard.

    @V Renee
    ” I thought the so called rule was that you can’t cheat with someone who doesn’t look as good if not better than wifey. At least this is what one of my homeboys stated.”

    This is the rule for those of us that have standards, self-respect, and don’t chase p***y.

  106. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 11:07 am

    @VRenee: You are crack me up. I hear you though…just because he becomes rich & famous is not grounds alone to leave him…because not ALL men cheat. Some men can handle the riches, the fame, the attention and still honor their wives and families.

  107. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:08 am

    “@Nicki: But what if he wasn’t famous when you met him and you didn’t realize that he may one day become rich (or wealthy) & famous? Would you then leave him if he became famous?”

    Nope, I think by that point, we’d have an established relationship and I wouldn’t have anything to worry about. For some reason, that way, I think he’d be more down to earth.

    But say a football or basketball player or high profile pastor??? NOOOOOO.

  108. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:09 am

    “… and to some guys, moonfruit becomes moonfruit … but to some, the game never changes. Look at Hugh Heff.”

    Why do men always do that…use these OLD a@zz figures to support hyper se!xuality…THE MAN NEVER GREW UP. His AZZ IS SO OLD NOW he has to BUY 20 year olds. and by the time they get my age they are damaged spoiled goods.

    At 80+ thats not a life to live. where you ALWAYS have to upgrade…I mean age isn’t what it used to be. Sophia Loren and Lauren Hutton ARE BANGIN to be like 70 something..why not get those women, why upgrade everytime she turns 28.

  109. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 11:10 am

    80’s: ”I disagree with you on Vanessa Bryant….I don’t see what all the hype is about her…. She a knock off Kim K if you ask me.”

    Umm, is this a bad thing?

    CBG: ”This is why I’ve come to know that its NOT about the chick”

    It rarely is. For most men, it’s about the chase. Or it could just be, as Chris Rock said, getting new pu$$y. I’m just a big believer in quality over quantity, although a lot of guys don’t share that opinion.

    Damon: ”It’s not about sports. It’s just that it’s prevalent in that arena. Just like it’s prevalent on college campuses with fraternities. And with politicians. And celebrities. And with young, upwardly mobile black men period. It’s not just sports.”

    These days, if you make more than twelve dollars an hour, have an apartment, and you are north of Craig Mack on the attractiveness scale, you will have a decent amount of pu$$y thrown your way.

  110. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:12 am

    “and you are north of Craig Mack on the attractiveness scale, you will have a decent amount of pu$$y thrown your way.”

    @ Hugh..you aged yourself with Craig Mack. LOL…I want to go on some type of covert operation to investigate all this “flavor in the ear” dudes are getting. Is it women pushing up really hard..or are they being chased by men.

    both? what? I REALLY NEED TO KNOW!!

  111. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:13 am

    Actually I find that men who cheat usually DOWNGRADE. And I be like dang if they gonna cheat they could have at least got with somebody who is on the level or better than the wife/gf. I rarely see a man upgrade when he cheats.

  112. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 11:14 am

    @Jada

    “And these women chasing married men are just as bad. How you could willingly particpate in the destruction of another’s home (no matter the shitty circumstances he will try to convince you of), makes me wonder how they can look themselves in the mirror each day. Black families are ALREADY struggling…they don’t need anymore help in being destroyed.”

    Some women just want to be told what they want to hear. And there are men out there to do that. If their emotions needed to be tended to they will take it from anyone.

  113. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:14 am

    My question is WHY BOTHER getting married if there is a good percentage that you will not stay faithful? WHAT IS THE POINT? Ain’t nobody putting a gun to these men’s heaqd and forcing them to lie before GOD and their families…NOBODY.”

    Thats what I’m saying…i think women might be more inclined to co-sign with the ho!e-ation..if dudes were up front. I mean you CAN have what you want..why lie? Why even get married.

  114. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:14 am

    Yeah, no one is actually with Hugh bc they love him.. They love him bc of his money.

  115. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:18 am

    @ Hummy

    But they can’t find a SINGLE man to give them a snow job? There are plenty lying @ss single men out here for them to have to be involved in someone else’s marriage.

  116. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 11:18 am

    CBG: “@ Hugh..you aged yourself with Craig Mack. LOL…I want to go on some type of covert operation to investigate all this “flavor in the ear” dudes are getting. Is it women pushing up really hard..or are they being chased by men.”

    I’m 33 and not ashamed of it. Although in the elevator here last week, a woman thought I was in the apprentice program for high school students. I’ve been out of high school for 15 years! I know I don’t look that young.

    But it is women chasing men that has changed. Men have always chased women. It’s women that are chasing now and have lowered their standards.

  117. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 11:20 am

    Nicki: “Yeah, no one is actually with Hugh bc they love him.. They love him bc of his money.”

    Obviously you’re talking about Hefner. Jazz is broke.

  118. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:20 am

    @ Hummy

    I almost forgot…you wrong as all hell for that pic you sent. After I told you no BS! But 80’s is right..you do sound nice over the phone. Maybe next time the other guys won’t be so scary and will join us.

    Big ups to NoMo!

  119. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:21 am

    But it is women chasing men that has changed. Men have always chased women. It’s women that are chasing now and have lowered their standards.

    Ain’t that the dang truth?

  120. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:22 am

    “It’s women that are chasing now and have lowered their standards.

    I suspected this..but needed to hear it from a man…But I’ve always said A WOMAN should chase..but chase so that he catches you.

  121. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:22 am

    “Obviously you’re talking about Hefner. Jazz is broke”

    LMAO. Yes, I’m talm’bout Hefner.

    A birdie told me they are with Jazz bc of his musk-cals.

  122. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 11:23 am

    Jada: “Maybe next time the other guys won’t be so scary and will join us.”

    I started to make that 90 minute trip down I-94, but my family had stuff going on. Besides, No More was the only guy that went and he went with his girl.

  123. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 11:31 am

    “My question is WHY BOTHER getting married if there is a good percentage that you will not stay faithful? WHAT IS THE POINT? Ain’t nobody putting a gun to these men’s heaqd and forcing them to lie before GOD and their families…NOBODY.”

    Because some men are not man enough to accept their decisions and understand that you cannot have your cake and eat it too.

  124. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:31 am

    But he still came. He was the only guy who came cause the ret of y’all is scary Jazzy! You canmake it up tp us on the next trip though!

  125. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 11:34 am

    @Jada
    “I almost forgot…you wrong as all hell for that pic you sent. After I told you no BS! But 80’s is right..you do sound nice over the phone. Maybe next time the other guys won’t be so scary and will join us.”

    Yall gonna stop dissing my picture. I proud of how I look.

  126. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:35 am

    “Because some men are not man enough to accept their decisions and understand that you cannot have your cake and eat it too.”

    @ Humble..i think the failure is in this perception. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT.

    You a) have to be upfront and b) HAVE TO BE SINGLE.

    it can be done. But its usually not advised in a marriage.

  127. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 11:37 am

    Hello treehousers!!

    Still in the bask of my lovely 3-day week-end (but still hating on the Chi Girls. Ha! :) )

    I didn’t know anything about this case until I caught a glimpse of it on the radio this morning… Someone was saying something about killing by the sword and dying by the sword and another was talking about some powerful juices or some such… *smh @ “urban” radio…

    I don’t have an opinion so far as I don’t know the specifics of the case, but I’m intrigued by this sentence CBG. Pray tell what you mean by that:

    Most really smart women over the age of 25 know that “unavailable men” (married/separated) are your rite of passage.

    The Chi Girls tell me all about your week-end escapade!!

  128. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 11:39 am

    If Players are PLAYERS, you have to look at the women in these situations as well. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY’RE getting themselves into from the jump.

    AGREED!!!

    There are players and mistresses and situations like this because PEOPLE let those situations happen…

  129. the champ
    July 6, 2009 | 11:42 am

    For an athlete/entertainer/politician who hasn’t completely sowed their oats yet, I think the allure in being married is having something to call “home” while still being able to do their thing on the road.

    While this may seem short-sighted, I honestly think that most of these men believe they can separate the two as long as they need to.

  130. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:44 am

    @Lovely: It was a great weekend.. I wish all of yaw could come.

    Me and J had our hands in everything, trying to be tourists- boat tours, train ride to Wrigley (shout out to Mik), pizza eating, hot dog eating, The TASTE CROWD WAS AWFUL. I don’t want to do that part again.

    Shout out to Mik, also, for suggesting we do the Funky Buddah Lounge. that club is thee bizness.

  131. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:44 am

    Most really smart women over the age of 25 know that “unavailable men” (married/separated) are your rite of passage.”

    @ LP..i believe it USUALLY takes the ability to love really wrong before you get it right. And I do believe 99.9% of all women have happened upon an “unavailable” man, delt with the karmic fall out, and got love right…or better as a result.

  132. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:44 am

    Oh and some lesbo tried to pick me up in the hotel lobby after the club. .. don’t know if she knew me and J were together (he was at the counter) or if she just didn’t care.

  133. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:45 am

    “While this may seem short-sighted, I honestly think that most of these men believe they can separate the two as long as they need to.”

    @ champ…sounds like dyck’s logic.

  134. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:47 am

    @ Champ

    That is some selfisdh ish though! They’d rather put their wives lives at risk (the person who makes home HOME) for random poon. The fact is…no matter how much in their monds they think they are seperating they are not. Women are not stupid…can sense what’s going on. And whether she decides to put up with it or not does not negate the fact that she is being hurt.

  135. the champ
    July 6, 2009 | 11:47 am

    And, as far as the cake thing, there are numerous instance that prove that it is possible to have and eat as much cake as you want to…while married.

    Its not right, but you can’t say that it doesn’t work for some. “Work” in this case being “the ability to do it without facing any serious negative consequences”.

  136. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 11:49 am

    @Comeback
    “i think the failure is in this perception. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT.

    You a) have to be upfront and b) HAVE TO BE SINGLE.

    it can be done. But its usually not advised in a marriage.”

    It can be done but most men don’t have the b@lls to endure being told no by the women that want them.

  137. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:49 am

    “Its not right, but you can’t say that it doesn’t work for some. “Work” in this case being “the ability to do it without facing any serious negative consequences”.

    @ Champ..ar ethe the spokesman for shtty marital behavior now?

  138. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:50 am

    “Women are not stupid…can sense what’s going on. And whether she decides to put up with it or not does not negate the fact that she is being hurt.”

    I agree… Additionally, I think it is the woman’s duty to let him know she will not put up with it. I think so many of them think they can get away with it bc so many of them do.

  139. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 11:50 am

    Big ups to NoMo!

    Thanks! Hugh you should’ve came just because there were a lot of nice looking women there this weekend.

  140. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:51 am

    “It can be done but most men don’t have the b@lls to endure being told no by the women that want them.

    @ Hummy and I think thats the only way that collectively this sports/politican “underworld”…we’ll get a little upright, when women start to say “this is unacceptable”. Again if you have a bottom feeder/lowest bidder, the behavior won’t stop, it’ll just go under the radar.

  141. the champ
    July 6, 2009 | 11:54 am

    @ Champ..ar ethe the spokesman for shtty marital behavior now?

    lol, i’m just giving answers to questions asked in here today. understanding the logic behind something doesn’t automatically mean that you agree with it.

  142. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 11:54 am

    Additionally, I think it is the woman’s duty to let him know she will not put up with it. I think so many of them think they can get away with it bc so many of them do”

    @ sunny ..yep..we wrote this at the same time..women are really the moral conscience…And ultimately i think men choose women (they stay with and are faithful too) who call them to a HIGHER STANDARD..Michelle Obama LOOKS like she don’t play.

  143. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 11:55 am

    @ CBG and Hummy

    Agreed. As long as there are women willing to sell themselves short…it will continue…b/c it’s just TOO much to ask for a man to just have some damn integrity.

  144. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 11:56 am

    “@ sunny ..yep..we wrote this at the same time..women are really the moral conscience…And ultimately i think men choose women (they stay with and are faithful too) who call them to a HIGHER STANDARD..Michelle Obama LOOKS like she don’t play”

    That’s bc we are geniuses, Comeback.

    Seriously, I agree… I think a man wants a woman who will respect herself and make him respect her in the long run….

  145. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 11:58 am

    @Cbg,

    @ LP..i believe it USUALLY takes the ability to love really wrong before you get it right. And I do believe 99.9% of all women have happened upon an “unavailable” man, delt with the karmic fall out, and got love right…or better as a result.

    Wow… Then, it will take a lot of broken hearts for the world to work right…

    Maybe your description of “unavailable” is what threw me off. Is it solely separated/married man? Meaning if you haven’t fallen upon those, what do you do? Do you have to?

    Btw, I don’t think it’s inherent to sports/politics/males or whatever. It’s personality-based… I am in a long distance relationship, and I am not above fighting to remain faithful as well… And I don’t have power and/or money… but temptation is real and it exists! And not aknowledging to me is part of the problem… it’s like you like to lots of “pixie dust”… I make the decision to remain faithful because it is worth it to me at this moment, it doesn’t mean it’s easy… Trying to deny that it happens is what in my opinion creates the pressure-cooker effect… I aknowledge that I can be tempted to do stuff I am not supposed to do, so I don’t put myself in those situations…

    People have different personalities. And like Hugh and Damon mention upthread, with ambition, drive, wanting the next best thing also comes the possibility to be tempted by something new and next-best thing-ish… Hence why prominent men are often philanderers as well… and men are caught more often because they are sloppy and stupid.

  146. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:03 pm

    “Maybe your description of “unavailable” is what threw me off. Is it solely separated/married man? Meaning if you haven’t fallen upon those, what do you do? Do you have to?”

    @ LP…its whatever you want it to be…The comment was motivated by this thread i found on the tennesean?? or cnn?? mostly women saying they didn’t understand the other woman phenom..and how could she?? Just all this bullshyt..

    My thinking is IF every woman of a certain age (who has had a relatively active dating life) CAN’T say she’s been “the other woman” at some point in her life…she maybe be misinformed or lying. This includes, married/separated/committed relationship.

    Im not saying ALL..im saying MOST..and with that HAS to come a little compassion. I can understand how a 20 year old could get wrapped up in the pixie. I can understand how she thought he was going to leave.

    There are whole websites devoted to marrying a married man LOL..its crazy, but its true.

  147. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:05 pm

    @Comeback & Jada

    I agree. If men actually chose to accept everything that comes with marriage or a comitted relationship and women stop settling for anything that soothes their emotions a lot of this will go away.

  148. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 12:07 pm

    Nicki: “LMAO. Yes, I’m talm’bout Hefner. A birdie told me they are with Jazz bc of his musk-cals.

    That’s partially true. I like to think it’s because of the staggering good looks and prodigious intellect.

    Nicki: “The TASTE CROWD WAS AWFUL. I don’t want to do that part again.”

    I could have told you that, but I didn’t want to poo-poo on the get-together. Summerfest in Milwaukee is at the same time as the Taste, but the crowds are bigger so you wouldn’t have enjoyed it. The R&B and hip-hop acts this year were Stevie Wonder, John Legend, Frankie Beverly and Maze, Earth, Wind and Fire, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Asher Roth, The Roots, Loverboy, and Anthony Hamilton. Except for Stevie and John Legend, everyone performed on one of the free stages.

  149. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 12:08 pm

    CBG: “Humble..i think the failure is in this perception. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT.

    No, the failure is a lack of respect for the sanctity of marriage. You may see settling down as growing up. Hef obviously disagrees.

  150. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:09 pm

    “That’s partially true. I like to think it’s because of the staggering good looks and prodigious intellect.”

    Hey hey now. I am NOT mad at you.

    Additionally, those acts sound pretty good. I am not a crowd person, naturally, especially when I am hungry, trying to get something to eat, and when it’s unstructured… I hated squeezing through and they definitely should not have allowed strollers

  151. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 12:10 pm

    “What I don’t understand is the ho!eish aura around professional sports. What I understand even less is why are these dudes even encouraged to get married and start families if they are still in the a!zz getting phase?”

    That aura exists around any place where there are well-to-do Black men. And it’s a commentary on how Black men conduct themselves, and how we perceive them.

    When was the last time you heard about Steve Nash or Wayne Gretzky or Brett Favre getting some side action?? Never. But it ain’t ’cause them jokers never did any creepin’! It’s because there isn’t a stereotype for them to feed into like there is for blinged out Black men and there $12K rims.

  152. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:10 pm

    No, the failure is a lack of respect for the sanctity of marriage. You may see settling down as growing up. Hef obviously disagrees.

    Co-sign this statement.

  153. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:12 pm

    When was the last time you heard about Steve Nash or Wayne Gretzky or Brett Favre getting some side action?? Never. But it ain’t ’cause them jokers never did any creepin’! It’s because there isn’t a stereotype for them to feed into like there is for blinged out Black men and there $12K rims.

    Co-sign this too.

  154. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:12 pm

    @ LP

    Chi was great. The first night we all got together and grabbed some food from the Cheesecake factory, where we learned the history and why there are no CCF’s in Detroit and the state of Michigan.

    Next day we ate lunch at the Signature room…95 stories in the air. Then we walked to the Taste..which I will never do again. It was super congested and I hate being enclosed like that. I started panicking like I’m never gonna get out of this.

    Finally we left and walked around. Went to Garretts the popcorn place. Then we all went back to out respective hotels. Thought we were going out until we found out you had to buy tickets (which were sold out) and the party ended at 12 anyways. It was already like 11.

    Next day we all got up and went out seperate ways for a while. Some shopping, some site-seeing, some back to the taste…which was siad was much better that day cuz not as many people cuz it rained. Then we all got together and got some food. Then they took me to see Hangover since I’d never seen it! HILARITY MUTHAFUCCCCCCCCAAAAAAAAAAA! LOL. Then we went to our hotel and chilled at the bar for a bit. I left to shower since I had to get up early to catch the shuttle back to the airport.

    Good times. Everybody was so cool and I’m glad I went. We had a ball!

  155. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:12 pm

    My thinking is IF every woman of a certain age (who has had a relatively active dating life) CAN’T say she’s been “the other woman” at some point in her life…she maybe be misinformed or lying.

    I love your broad sweeping generalizations. :)

    But I think I got your point.

  156. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 12:13 pm

    CBG: “women are really the moral conscience…And ultimately i think men choose women (they stay with and are faithful too) who call them to a HIGHER STANDARD”

    Not really. The man usually the moral conscious in a good marriage. A man who is faithful simply because of his wife’s demands and expectations is a pu$$y. A man has to make the conscious decision that he’ll stay monogamous, through better or worse.

  157. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:13 pm

    I’m sorry we kept missing yaw!!!!!!

  158. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:14 pm

    “. You may see settling down as growing up. Hef obviously disagrees.”

    Alot of men i notice look to him as a real role model..but he just seems really miserable to me. He’s had a a few wives..one of which is as old as his old a!zz. His own daughter (who runs Pla1yboy..looks like some of those girls grandma’s)..its really sad..And its not how I would want to live my twilight years.

  159. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:15 pm

    @Jada,

    Awwww! Thanks for that faithful recap! Sounds like you guys had a blast. Hopefully, we’ll be able to have a repeat of some sorts at some point.

    And isn’t the Hangover the funniest movie in a minute? That stuff was hilarious!

  160. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 12:15 pm

    “My thinking is IF every woman of a certain age (who has had a relatively active dating life) CAN’T say she’s been “the other woman” at some point in her life…she maybe be misinformed or lying. This includes, married/separated/committed relationship.”

    @CBG: Interesting. And though I’m no expert, I’d agree with you here.

    As a related tangent, most women will deny their “other woman” past just like they will deny certain people they slept with. It’s all about keeping up a particular image.

  161. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:16 pm

    After I told you no BS! But 80’s is right..you do sound nice over the phone. .

    Ummmm did I miss the whole talking to Humble on the phone. I heard NO sexy voice Humble.

    My thinking is IF every woman of a certain age (who has had a relatively active dating life) CAN’T say she’s been “the other woman” at some point in her life…she maybe be misinformed or lying. This includes, married/separated/committed relationship. .

    I agree with this. I will put this out there. I’ve dated a married man before. I originally met him out of town. They later sent a pic. I zoomed in, noticed a ring, and asked about it. I wish I could say no I don’t that I stopped communication. I didn’t. I can’t even lie and say I felt bad about it…..I didn’t. It was a case of me being selfish.

  162. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:16 pm

    “Alot of men i notice look to him as a real role model..but he just seems really miserable to me.”

    Can any man truly be happy knowing that none of this (12 blond bimbos) would be possible if it weren’t for the money

    -OR-

    is the fact that he does have 12 hot blond bimbos good enough to let him sleep at night?

    hmmmm

  163. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:16 pm

    “I love your broad sweeping generalizations”

    @ LP..thats how this life works..choices and beliefs are made because of them.

    I could ask on this vary blog…and in some ways I have asked. Do you know I believe 95% of the ladies would say they found themselves in a dating situation with an unavailable man..(be it he lied etc.)..

  164. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:17 pm

    @Hugh,

    A man who is faithful simply because of his wife’s demands and expectations is a pu$$y. A man has to make the conscious decision that he’ll stay monogamous, through better or worse.

    Yup. Co-sign 110%.

  165. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:17 pm

    LET THE RECORD STATE…i had NOT read Vroom’s comment.

  166. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:17 pm

    “And isn’t the Hangover the funniest movie in a minute? That stuff was hilarious!”

    That movie makes me want to go to Vegas. lol. Planning a trip to depart in two to three months.

  167. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:19 pm

    “Do you know I believe 95% of the ladies would say they found themselves in a dating situation with an unavailable man..(be it he lied etc.)..”

    I know I have.. that ninja lied… but I had a feeling, and I knocked him off anyway.

  168. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:20 pm

    In my comment, I only meant to strike out the part that says “no I don’t”. The rest should have been regular font.

  169. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:21 pm

    “I agree with this. I will put this out there. I’ve dated a married man before. I originally met him out of town. They later sent a pic. I zoomed in, noticed a ring, and asked about it. I wish I could say no I don’t that I stopped communication. I didn’t. I can’t even lie and say I felt bad about it…..I didn’t. It was a case of me being selfish.


    LOL..I died…

    but thats my point..its like something i notice women don’t talk about. So when I was bout to rail on Sahel..i remembered my tryst. He was “separated” but married AS THE DAY IS FYCKIN LONG…he just had resources to give the guise of a “single”…”im getting a divorce” life.

  170. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:22 pm

    Can any man truly be happy knowing that none of this (12 blond bimbos) would be possible if it weren’t for the money

    Yes.

    is the fact that he does have 12 hot blond bimbos good enough to let him sleep at night?

    Yes again.

  171. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:23 pm

    As a related tangent, most women will deny their “other woman” past just like they will deny certain people they slept with. It’s all about keeping up a particular image.”

    @ Offey..true..

  172. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:23 pm

    LOL. No more, are u trying to say it really doesn’t matter to him, as long as he has the money and the bimb(h)oes?

  173. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 12:25 pm

    Leave it to No….

  174. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:26 pm

    Can any man truly be happy knowing that none of this (12 blond bimbos) would be possible if it weren’t for the money

    Yes.

    is the fact that he does have 12 hot blond bimbos good enough to let him sleep at night?

    Yes again.

    @ Sunny & NoNo..i wonder if NoNo’s opinion would change in 5 or 6 years? 10?

  175. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 12:26 pm

    Nicki: “LOL. No more, are u trying to say it really doesn’t matter to him, as long as he has the money and the bimb(h)oes?”

    No More is right. It depends on where your priorities are. Not everyone longs for the wife, 2.4 kids and the picket fence.

  176. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:27 pm

    @Nicki,

    No more, are u trying to say it really doesn’t matter to him, as long as he has the money and the bimb(h)oes?

    I think this is one of the fundamental differences between men and women… Women consider intent and are more concerned about the intent. Men consider the end result.

    So we won’t be happy about someone sleeping with us because of the money or anything else… And men will just be happy about the “sleeping” part.

  177. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:27 pm

    I don’t see the point in denying it. You did it…let’s just hope a good lesson was learned and the behavior was nto repeated.

  178. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:30 pm

    LOL. No more, are u trying to say it really doesn’t matter to him, as long as he has the money and the bimb(h)oes?

    Im just saying that people place importance on different things and have different goals. I know some guys who cant wait to be married and have a family and I know some guys who just want to smash whomever they want to smash and keep it moving. So it depends on what you want. I would think Hugh Heff is happy.

  179. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:31 pm

    “I wonder if NoNo’s opinion would change in 5 or
    6 years? 10?”

    “No More is right. It depends on where your priorities are. Not everyone longs for the wife, 2.4 kids and the picket fence”

    Don’t men get lonely too?

    “So we won’t be happy about someone sleeping with us because of the money or anything else…”

    This is the part I was leaning towards…. I don’t see how anyone would feel okay being used.

  180. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:32 pm

    Sunny & NoNo..i wonder if NoNo’s opinion would change in 5 or 6 years? 10?

    Anything is possible.

  181. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:33 pm

    @Jada

    “Chi was great. The first night we all got together and grabbed some food from the Cheesecake factory, where we learned the history and why there are no CCF’s in Detroit and the state of Michigan.”

    Please explain this. I figured somebody here did them wrong considering this is where the Cheesecake Factory started.

  182. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:33 pm

    Re: Hosh!t. I am the first one to claim that I am nowhere near “good girl” status… whatever that even means :) .
    Although I have never dated a married/separated man, I have dated a guy who had a girlfriend (whom I actually knew as he knew my boyfriend as well… *smh*)… We were both in a foreign place together with our supposedly “significant” others in a land faraway… We actually had a whole relationship working that way… I pushed the audacity to even bring her stuff he had bought for her when I was home on vacation… And trust me at the time, I really didn’t care much about the implications of what it meant. When we were both home and with our not-so-significant others, we would just chitchat and nod amicably and no one would be the wiser…

    Ah! The things we do when we are young… and horny

  183. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:33 pm

    “Don’t men get lonely too? ”

    YES!!! and I think when that Kendra chick left that sort of broke his heart. I think the Hugh Hef persona was created in the mind of pimply face boys turned men who don’t want to grow up..believing the grass is greener.

    Hugh is a product of having to keep up appearances..his livlihood/brand depended it on it.

  184. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:35 pm

    “YES!!! and I think when that Kendra chick left that sort of broke his heart. I think the Hugh Hef persona was created in the mind of pimply face boys turned men who don’t want to grow up..believing the grass is greener.

    Hugh is a product of having to keep up appearances..his livlihood/brand depended it on it.”

    I thought so too! He just doesn’t seem as happy with those twins.. I saw the show when he met Kendra’s then fiance.

  185. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:36 pm

    Don’t men get lonely too?

    In my years of single-dom, I have not ever been lonely, in that sense. I always had myself, my hobbies and my friends.

  186. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:37 pm

    @ No Im just saying that people place importance on different things and have different goals. .

    And I agree with this too. People too often assume that everyone wants to be married, with kids or whatnot. Even when someone says that’s not what they want, it’s rebuked. There’s this pressure to do such, and I think people getted roped into thinking what they want is a marriage, when in actuality they still want to “smash” around. Mamas on the side talmabout “When you getting married and giving me some grandbabies? Whatever happened to Lisa, she was a nice and pretty little thang. She would’ve gave me some pretty grandbabies. And she had manners. Not like these other loosies you bring ’round here”.

    Next thing you know, he’s back with Lisa and is living someone elses vision of his life.

  187. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:38 pm

    @LP
    “My thinking is IF every woman of a certain age (who has had a relatively active dating life) CAN’T say she’s been “the other woman” at some point in her life…she maybe be misinformed or lying.

    I love your broad sweeping generalizations.

    But I think I got your point.”

    I think Comeback is right with this statement.

  188. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:38 pm

    @ Jada “Chi was great. The first night we all got together and grabbed some food from the Cheesecake factory, where we learned the history and why there are no CCF’s in Detroit and the state of Michigan.” .

    So you just gon leave out the part about how you pretty much told dude to shove his history lesson and bring everybody they d@mn food?

  189. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:38 pm

    “In my years of single-dom, I have not ever been lonely, in that sense. I always had myself, my hobbies and my friends.”

    Do u think it was bc u were always occupied? Not that I don’t believe u, I’m just trying to figure this out. lol

    But seriously, you never thought, “I sure would like a nice girl to kick it with right now…” or anything like that.

  190. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:39 pm

    @ Hummy

    You are correct. CCF started somewhat underground in detroit I believe. When the owner was redy to take it public, he found that in Michigan/Detroit it would take him 3 years to obtain a business.

    So he started in California instead and has had a low-key vendetta against Michigan/Detroit ever since. Has yet to build a CCF where he started and refuses to.

  191. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 12:40 pm

    “Don’t men get lonely too?

    When men get lonely, they just want some company.

    When women get lonely, they want to fall in love.

  192. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:41 pm

    “When men get lonely, they just want some company.”

    So just some “company” for the rest of your life would suffice?

  193. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:41 pm

    @No More
    “Don’t men get lonely too?

    In my years of single-dom, I have not ever been lonely, in that sense. I always had myself, my hobbies and my friends.”

    Cosign.

  194. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:42 pm

    “I don’t see the point in denying it. You did it…let’s just hope a good lesson was learned and the behavior was nto repeated.”

    @ Ja..what about men who lie..I don;t think women go around looking for unavailable men…to me the point to is to listen to your instincts. Quiet as kept in a few meetings and talking with a man you can tell if his a!zz is otherwise NOT single.

  195. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:42 pm

    @ V…LMAO! You ain’t have to call me out like that. Dude was like the story was in the welcome. I’m like ain’t nobody reading the damn welcome we want our food!

  196. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 12:45 pm

    “So just some “company” for the rest of your life would suffice?”

    Naw naw…. men don’t get married because they are lonely. Lonely is a fleeting feeling, so company will do. But when a man is ready to settle down, it’s not about being lonely. It’s about thinking he’s ready.

  197. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 12:45 pm

    If selling women and sex is your business then you gotta do what you gotta do.

    I don’t think men get lonely in the sense that women do…

    Well they do…

    I call it horny

  198. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:45 pm

    @V Renee
    “So you just gon leave out the part about how you pretty much told dude to shove his history lesson and bring everybody they d@mn food?”

    Jada got gangsta?

    @Jada

    Thats explains a lot. I wonder who gave him such a hard time?

  199. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:46 pm

    “When men get lonely, they just want some company.”

    @ Offey..and when you mean “company” you really mean “a!zz” right?

  200. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 12:46 pm

    D@mn this post!!!!

    I am guilty!!!!! I would never put myself in that situation again…. What if scenario’s kept running through my head!!!!! I could never see myself doing something like that on a continuous basis though.

    He even mentioned that he would be okay with this lil setup (as far as seeing me on the side) to see if I would go for it and I had to let it be known this was just a ONE TIME thing and that was only due to unresolved issues.

  201. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:46 pm

    “Naw naw…. men don’t get married because they are lonely. Lonely is a fleeting feeling, so company will do. But when a man is ready to settle down, it’s not about being lonely. It’s about thinking he’s ready.”

    What about men who get the career and the money out of the way, and then think, “it would be nice to have someone to share this with.”

    Wouldnt’ that be classified as lonely?

  202. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:47 pm

    @ CBG

    I agree with you there. All I’m saying is if someone found themselves in one of those situations I don’t see why they would deny it as if it never happened. A simple I was involved with a married man but didn’t know….or I had an unavailable men and sheesh I’ll never do that again.

    To me there is no point in straight up denying it never happened unless you feel like your life is threatened. Oher than that…it’s life…it happened…learn from it and move on.

  203. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:47 pm

    Do u think it was bc u were always occupied? Not that I don’t believe u, I’m just trying to figure this out. lol

    But seriously, you never thought, “I sure would like a nice girl to kick it with right now…” or anything like that.

    I would call a nice girl to kick it with until that feeling went away, and it would go away quick. Like I had a team of women I would call if I wanted to do the dinner and movie thing, or I had to go to a wedding or something. Not the most gentlemanly thing, but its the truth. And most of the girls knew exactly what was up.

  204. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:48 pm

    @ Nicki – My coworker sent me this “fairy tale” that goes something like this:

    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl ‘Will you marry me?’ The girls said: ‘NO’ and she lived happily ever after and went shopping, dancing, camping, drank martinis, always had a clean house, never had to cook, did whatever the hell she wanted, never argued, didn’t get fat, traveled more, had many lovers, didn’t save money and had all the hot water to herself. She went to the theater, never watched sports, never wore freaking lacy lingerie that went up her azz, had high self esteem, never cried or yelled , felt and looked fabulous in sweat pants and was pleasant all the time.

    The End.

    Marriage is hyped as the final icing in order to have a happy life. Why can’t single-dom be hyped too? I truly believe I would be just as happy married as I would single. This is not to say I don’t want marriage, but I know me and I know wherever I end up, I WILL be happy. If I didn’t have a husband, I would just have my own version of Golden Girls in my old age.

  205. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 12:49 pm

    And most of the girls knew exactly what was up.

    Long as you kept it real I don’t see the problem with this.

  206. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 12:49 pm

    @Offdwall
    “Naw naw…. men don’t get married because they are lonely. Lonely is a fleeting feeling, so company will do. But when a man is ready to settle down, it’s not about being lonely. It’s about thinking he’s ready”

    There are exceptions to this. I have a friend that got married at 22 b/c he didnt want to be lonely. There are some men out there that want somebody to love them. I don’t want to generalize but I have noticed these dudes to be lames.

  207. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:50 pm

    “Like I had a team of women I would call if I wanted to do the dinner and movie thing, or I had to go to a wedding or something. Not the most gentlemanly thing, but its the truth. And most of the girls knew exactly what was up.”

    Got you… I can’t hate on you,if you were honest… they must have been okay with the set up!

  208. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 12:51 pm

    @ Jada – I’m just saying, you giving recaps about the history of CCF, but leaving out info. hahaha

  209. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 12:53 pm

    “when you mean “company” you really mean “a!zz” right?”

    @CBG: No, no, no. Not at all. I mean, sometimes it does. But in general, sometimes you just want the company of a woman.

    “Wouldnt’ that be classified as lonely?”

    @Nicki: Nah, I think that is just ready.

  210. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 12:53 pm

    “Like I had a team of women I would call if I wanted to do the dinner and movie thing, or I had to go to a wedding or something”

    But don’t single women have a similiar list???

  211. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:54 pm

    @Nicki,

    I don’t think anybody should be getting married because they are lonely. That sounds so wrong! Like get a puppy or something. Lol!

    But when a man is ready to settle down, it’s not about being lonely. It’s about thinking he’s ready.

    I was explaining that to my sisters yesterday. Someone (can’t remember who) gave that analogy.

    Women go on a cruise, the ship stops in a port, they visit the town, get acquainted with it and absolutely love the little place. After the vacation is over, they move back to the little port to settle there.

    Men go on a cruise with the intent to look for a new port to settle in, the first one they find that fits what they were looking for, they settle there.

    Most women decide to get married because they found the one place that make them feel safe and secure (with the bomb antique shops) while most men have to be in the “looking for a new place to live” mode before they make that decision.

  212. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 12:57 pm

    “Marriage is hyped as the final icing in order to have a happy life. Why can’t single-dom be hyped too? I truly believe I would be just as happy married as I would single. This is not to say I don’t want marriage, but I know me and I know wherever I end up, I WILL be happy. If I didn’t have a husband, I would just have my own version of Golden Girls in my old age.”

    I liked the fairy tale. I do believe there are some people that are okay with it… I’m just trying to understand if the people that “claim” they are okay, are really okay or is it bc they feel like there is no match for them, u know.

    For instance, my ace boon coon… was dead set against getting married… she never thought she would, never wanted too.

    Then her son’s father asked… and they make the greatest couple.

  213. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 12:57 pm

    @V,

    I received that email and loved it so very much… I was that girl until I found a port that makes me want to take the “risk” of settling down and missing out on all the other “excitement” out there…

    I agree that if this fairy tale is told more often then you won’t have so many people entering things just for the sake of being “in something”…

  214. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 12:58 pm

    I’m just saying, you giving recaps about the history of CCF, but leaving out info. hahaha

    @V….. It’s something else that is being left out from CCF but I’m not gonna be the one to bring it up……. But it was hilarious…….. We were like 111111, 222222 then nothing but laughter… LMAO

  215. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 12:59 pm

    But don’t single women have a similiar list???

    Yeah, some people have a list of folks they know will fall for the okeydoke. Did you?

  216. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 12:59 pm

    @V

    I think you’re on to something. I don’t think women need validation from men..either.

    Its more companionship and honestly you could change negroes everyday and still be happy. I am gonna have to print out that little fairy tale because its so true.

  217. I was the 200th commenter and I wasn't even trying.....
    July 6, 2009 | 1:00 pm

    @V……….Take That Take That

  218. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:01 pm

    “Yeah, some people have a list of folks they know will fall for the okeydoke. Did you?

    I dont think its the okey doke. If I’m not sleeping with you there is no doke to okey…im on somebody’s list for places..and I def. have a list of people i can take specific places.

  219. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 1:02 pm

    truly believe I would be just as happy married as I would single. This is not to say I don’t want marriage, but I know me and I know wherever I end up, I WILL be happy

    Preach it from the mountain top! I know for a fact that I am better at being single than I am at being in relationships… I am just getting around to not being selfish, and frankly sometimes it does suck but again it’s all about what I get versus what I lose…. and right now the balance is positive, so I’ll keep it going.

  220. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:02 pm

    I don’t think I would be happy chaingin negroes everyday. That just sounds filthy. Give me my one and I’m good. But a revolving door of men is not where it’s at FOR ME.

  221. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:03 pm

    “Then her son’s father asked… and they make the greatest couple.

    how long have then been married tho?? i dunno..i know can understand how some women would just rather have a long term committed relationship

    …where he lives across the street.

  222. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:04 pm

    Off topic but I am thinking about switching from cable to dsl for internet. Does anyone here have dsl? How do you like it if you have it?

  223. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:05 pm

    @ 80’s

    That part of the story I figured I’d let THE person it happened to tell it.

    It was funarious though!

  224. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 1:06 pm

    I dont think its the okey doke. If I’m not sleeping with you there is no doke to okey…im on somebody’s list for places..and I def. have a list of people i can take specific places.

    No I mean when the people want to be in a relationship but you only use them for that and you dont talk any other time.

  225. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:07 pm

    It was funarious though!

    @Jada… Ha Ha Ha…… Where my camera???????

  226. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:07 pm

    “how long have then been married tho?? i dunno..i know can understand how some women would just rather have a long term committed relationship

    …where he lives across the street.”

    They just got married in March but their son is 6 and they have been on again and off again.. mostly on for the duration.

  227. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 1:08 pm

    @Jada,

    I don’t think I would be happy chaingin negroes everyday.

    That’s just goes to tell you how different people are… because that’s one of the things I really had to come to terms with when considering “settling down”… Like that’s it? This is all there will ever be? Humm, Jesus be a fence and some good HD memories…

  228. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:08 pm

    @80s
    “It’s something else that is being left out from CCF but I’m not gonna be the one to bring it up……. But it was hilarious…….. We were like 111111, 222222 then nothing but laughter… LMAO”

    What happened?

    @LP
    “Preach it from the mountain top! I know for a fact that I am better at being single than I am at being in relationships… I am just getting around to not being selfish, and frankly sometimes it does suck but again it’s all about what I get versus what I lose…. and right now the balance is positive, so I’ll keep it going.”

    Cosign. This is why I sometimes struggled hard in my past relationship.

  229. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:09 pm

    Humble: Nope, I’ve had DSL before when I lived with my parents (they still have it) and I just don’t think it moved as quickly as cable… it also seemed to have more problems, like u getting kicked off the net.

  230. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:09 pm

    “No I mean when the people want to be in a relationship but you only use them for that and you dont talk any other time.”

    I cannot lie…i had somebody on the list like this recently LOL…but the headache of going out and having the “talk” was too much of a price to pay.

  231. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:11 pm

    What happened?

    @Hummy… You should have been there!!!!! Naw just playing…… Let me just some stilletos and a slippery floor was not a good combination for one of the yayas…. LOL

  232. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:11 pm

    What happened?

    @Hummy… You should have been there!!!!! Naw just playing…… Let me just say some stilletos and a slippery floor was not a good combination for one of the yayas…. LOL

  233. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:12 pm

    @LP

    I know…and that’s why I put FOR ME. Cause I know some people get down like that and are perfectly happy about it.

    Everybody should do what makes them happy…the problems come when what’s making you happy causes you to lie to others, thus making THEM unhappy. People need to stop being so selfish b/c there are plenty of people who are willing to be down with whatever program or agenda you’re pushing. but don’t involve someone you know is not down for it by lying and selling them a dream.

  234. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:12 pm

    I’m just trying to understand if the people that “claim” they are okay, are really okay or is it bc they feel like there is no match for them, u know. .

    @ Nicki – Even if the person only claims it because they feel that way there is no match for them, what does it change? Should they just sit around sad and unhappy? People should be happy. Sometimes you don’t get everything you want in life.

  235. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:15 pm

    Sometimes you don’t get everything you want in life.

    @V.Renee…. I agree….And I’m gonna LIVE MY LIFE regardless whether I’m married or still single……

  236. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:15 pm

    “Should they just sit around sad and unhappy? People should be happy. Sometimes you don’t get everything you want in life.”

    Nah, but you shouldn’t lie to yourself.. if that’s what you really want, why not say it?

  237. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:15 pm

    It’s something else that is being left out from CCF but I’m not gonna be the one to bring it up……. But it was hilarious…….. We were like 111111, 222222 then nothing but laughter… LMAO .

    I’m still confused as to how this happened. One minute she was up, the next down. And her only concern was her disposable camera. HAHAHAHA

  238. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:18 pm

    “And her only concern was her disposable camera. HAHAHAHA”

    LMAO. The “disposable camera’ part is what makes the story so funny.

  239. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:18 pm

    @ Nicki Nah, but you shouldn’t lie to yourself.. if that’s what you really want, why not say it? .

    I definitely agree that you shouldn’t lie to yourself. But you shouldn’t stop living if what you want doesn’t happen. You can say “I would like to be married, and thus far I haven’t found the right person, but one monkey don’t stop the show. Therefore I’ma have about 10 of them .

    But at the same time, marriage is not everyone’s goal in life.

  240. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:19 pm

    @Nicki
    “Nope, I’ve had DSL before when I lived with my parents (they still have it) and I just don’t think it moved as quickly as cable… it also seemed to have more problems, like u getting kicked off the net.”

    Did you have the fastest speed available?

    @Comeback
    “I cannot lie…i had somebody on the list like this recently LOL…but the headache of going out and having the “talk” was too much of a price to pay.”

    Mating dance, head butting, and all and he still couldn’t get in? Even when he showed you that he wanted you?

    @80s
    “You should have been there!!!!! Naw just playing…… Let me just say some stilletos and a slippery floor was not a good combination for one of the yayas…. LOL”

    Who bust they @ss?

  241. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:20 pm

    “You can say “I would like to be married, and thus far I haven’t found the right person, but one monkey don’t stop the show. Therefore I’ma have about 10 of them .

    But at the same time, marriage is not everyone’s goal in life.”

    I agree.

    What do yaw think about the biblical concept- I don’t know where I’ve heard it… but “man is not meant to be alone”?

  242. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 1:21 pm

    @Nicki: Loved the pics…I’ll have to look at the rest later. Looks like y’all had a great time!

  243. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:22 pm

    “Did you have the fastest speed available?”

    I had cable.

    But at the time, (had it with AOL) they would get speed increases automatically and it never seemed to really make a big difference… to me that is.

  244. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:23 pm

    “@Nicki: Loved the pics…I’ll have to look at the rest later. Looks like y’all had a great time!”

    Thanks Shawnie! We had a ball girl.. neither one of us was ready to leave. It’s now went up on her places to move list. Thing is, we definitely cannot stay in the city.. it’s so expensive to park!!!!

  245. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 1:24 pm

    So there was no mischief in Chicago??? It was all wholesome fun?!?! Boooooo. LOL

  246. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:25 pm

    @ Humble – I had dsl back in the day. This was years ago though. It was slow at the time. Not sure if it improved or not.

  247. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:25 pm

    You can say “I would like to be married, and thus far I haven’t found the right person, but one monkey don’t stop the show. Therefore I’ma have about 10 of them .

    @V.Renee…. EXACTLY!!!!!! My aunt who is a hopeless romantic has been engaged twice but never married asked me the other day do you want to get married. And my response was eventually I do but it ain’t really nothing I can do about it… .If it happens it happens and if it don’t I’m still gonna be HAPPY!

  248. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 1:26 pm

    @Nicki,

    My take on the Bible is very different than most of you here so my answer will probably not be accurate. But in a nutshell, to me the Bible is not a step-by-step guidance book, so I interpret that particular passage (it’s in Genesis, the Creation story) as human beings being social animals by design. We are meant to live in communities, with our kin and other folks… That’s what that passage means to me.

    Now, let me reiterate one more time, that I am very left-field when it comes to the Religious stuff…

  249. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:26 pm

    So there was no mischief in Chicago??? It was all wholesome fun?!?! Boooooo. LOL .

    IF there was any….we wouldn’t tell.

  250. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:26 pm

    @Nickie
    “But at the time, (had it with AOL) they would get speed increases automatically and it never seemed to really make a big difference… to me that is.”

    I thought AOL was dial-up?

  251. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:27 pm

    “Nah, but you shouldn’t lie to yourself.. if that’s what you really want, why not say it?”

    I think happiness can exist in MANY forms..right now I have some friends who are turning me off right now to this marriage thing. I know its not exactly june and ward cleaver…but im seeing what constitutes more as a roomate situation than a love relationship/marriage..

  252. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 1:28 pm

    @Offdwall,

    I think they’re holding out on us with the Chicago tales… I’m sure there must be tales of that Funky Buddha Lounge. :D

  253. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:28 pm

    @ Me So there was no mischief in Chicago??? It was all wholesome fun?!?! Boooooo. LOL .

    IF there was any….we wouldn’t tell. .

    @ V (yes I’m answering my question) Or just be extra discrete so that no one knows anything. It’s not a secret if someone knows.

  254. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:28 pm

    @ Nick

    I believe that the majority of people are not meant to be alone but there are a few who have the gifty of singleness.

    But I also believe that people have so far strayed from God’s original intent of marriage anyway that it doesn’t even matter.

    Heck even in biblical days you had men cheating on their wives even though that was not the Lord’s intent.

  255. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 1:29 pm

    @Offey

    Goodness you’re the only nasty one.

  256. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:29 pm

    but im seeing what constitutes more as a roomate situation than a love relationship/marriage..

    @Comeback… And this is what I don’t want!!!!!!

  257. No More
    July 6, 2009 | 1:29 pm

    Who bust they @ss?</i

    LOL. Holly took the L.

  258. Shawnta`
    July 6, 2009 | 1:30 pm

    “but im seeing what constitutes more as a roomate situation than a love relationship/marriage..”

    @cbg: This is sad…hopefully, they work together to turn it around & soon because the longer it goes on the easier it will be to walk away from it all/the harder it’ll be to fix things.

  259. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 1:31 pm

    @Jaci: Me? Nasty? I said mischief, not naked people doing the butterfly! LOL

    @V: I KNOW you were out and about! LOL

  260. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:34 pm

    Humble, aren’t they both with the phoen cord?

  261. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:34 pm

    @ LP

    I never looked at it like that…but it makes perfect sense.

  262. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:36 pm

    @No More
    “LOL. Holly took the L.”

    HA!!! She bust her @ss and was trying to look cute?

  263. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:38 pm

    @Everyone.

    My email address killa48206@yahoo.com has been hacked. Do not open anything from me from this email address.

  264. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:39 pm

    @Nicki
    “Humble, aren’t they both with the phoen cord?”

    Yes but with dial-up the computer burps and farts before you get online.

  265. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 1:39 pm

    @Offey

    Pls I know your thoughts son

  266. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:40 pm

    “I’m sure there must be tales of that Funky Buddha Lounge”

    LMAO. Only me and J went.. V came with some of her girls…

    No really bad tales to boot… some freakish dancing… a couple of drinks. that’s it. lol

  267. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:42 pm

    “Yes but with dial-up the computer burps and farts before you get online.”

    LOL..is that a technical description..

  268. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:42 pm

    Shut up Humble. Hacked? what the effe?

  269. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:43 pm

    Who laughed when Holly fell? I wish yall would have recorded that.

  270. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:43 pm

    “Yes but with dial-up the computer burps and farts before you get online”

    They had that one YEARS ago, when I’d stay up late on yahoo chat. LMAO

    But now they dont’ have that (I know bc the computer no longer makes that noise)

  271. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:45 pm

    Who laughed when Holly fell? I wish yall would have recorded that.

    @Hummy….It happened so fast…. But me and V probably tied for laughing the longest…… Like V said she was up then she was down…. It was the fastest fall EVER!!!!!!!

  272. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:47 pm

    I laughed when she asked where my camera at? As if she paid 400 for that thing or sum. HILARE!

  273. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 1:47 pm

    “My email address killa48206@yahoo.com has been hacked.”

    @ Hummy..what woman did you pis!s off??

  274. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:47 pm

    That was a good point, Jay Boogie

  275. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 1:48 pm

    No more turned around like where she at….. We were like still on the floor….. LOL

  276. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 1:48 pm

    @Comeback: Is that 2009 equivalent of boiling a pet rabbit like in Fatal Attraction?? Hacking into a dude’s email account?? LOL

  277. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 1:51 pm

    @Nicki
    “Shut up Humble. Hacked? what the effe?”

    Somebody is sending viruses to my contacts through my email address.

    @Comeback
    “what woman did you pis!s off??”

    LOL. Take your pick.

    just kidding

  278. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 1:52 pm

    Dang Hummy!

    That’s ridiculous!

  279. Nicki Sunshine
    July 6, 2009 | 1:55 pm

    “Somebody is sending viruses to my contacts through my email address.”

    WOW.. I will merk a muthaschnucker

  280. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 1:56 pm

    HA!!! She bust her @ss and was trying to look cute? .

    I don’t like to laugh at people when they’re not around for me to laugh in their face, but this ish was HILARIOUS. The funniest part was her hollaring “where my camera at?”.

    She still looked cute….. even laid out on the floor. bless her heart

  281. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 2:03 pm

    “@Comeback: Is that 2009 equivalent of boiling a pet rabbit like in Fatal Attraction?? Hacking into a dude’s email account?? LOL”

    yep!!!…hummy better not mess over that girl LOL..

  282. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 2:04 pm

    In her defense…that floor was slippery as hell though…and I had on sneakers.

  283. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 2:04 pm

    “I don’t like to laugh at people when they’re not around for me to laugh in their face, but this ish was HILARIOUS.”

    My kind of woman.

  284. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 2:19 pm

    So what we done for the day???? Oh he.l.l. NAW!!!!!

  285. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 2:21 pm

    So when is the next trip?!?

  286. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 2:22 pm

    @V Reneegedy

    Hit me with an e-mail sugar!

    I gots an idea.

  287. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 2:23 pm

    “So when is the next trip?!?”

    I thought LP was planning something?

  288. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 2:24 pm

    @ offey – Why? You aint going come……. Props to No More for representing for the males, since the others weren’t brave enough to come.

  289. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 2:25 pm

    @ Jaci – sent.

  290. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 2:26 pm

    DC, I think that’s what LP had in mind.

  291. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 2:27 pm

    V: I will be at the next one! Don’t make me come to your state…

  292. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 2:28 pm

    DC, I think that’s what LP had in mind. .

    Is it really? I think you made that up. ha!

  293. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 2:30 pm

    @Offdwall
    “I will be at the next one! Don’t make me come to your state…”

    You don’t want to got there. Trust me.

  294. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 2:31 pm

    @ V I got you.

    @ Offey I thought we were going South…cause treehousers hate cold?

    And big ups to NMH for sure

  295. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 2:35 pm

    What did I miss?

  296. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 2:37 pm

    @V Renee
    “Props to No More for representing for the males, since the others weren’t brave enough to come.”

    Those of us that didn’t come were not scared.

  297. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 2:37 pm

    @LP

    Questions about the trip

  298. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 2:37 pm

    LP, where is the next Treehouse reunion??

  299. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 2:43 pm

    @ Hummy

    That’s what your mouth say!

  300. Back to 80's
    July 6, 2009 | 2:43 pm

    Those of us that didn’t come were not scared.

    @Hummy….Well…… Why didn’t you come??? Inquiring yaya’s want to know?????

  301. Shut up.... I'm the 200th and 300th commenter for the day!!!!!
    July 6, 2009 | 2:44 pm

    @V. Renee… You will never be able to top that.

  302. Anitra
    July 6, 2009 | 2:45 pm

    yea hum what happen to ya???

  303. I always knew 80's wasn't number 1
    July 6, 2009 | 2:48 pm

    @ offey – “I will be at the next one! Don’t make me come to your state… .

    You’ll leave here wanting to move here sike . Ha.

    @ Humble – You don’t want to got there. Trust me. .

    And this is from someone that’s from the D. hahahaha. So funny.

    Those of us that didn’t come were not scared. .

    Ima need more people.

  304. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 2:50 pm

    Questions about the trip

    LP, where is the next Treehouse reunion??

    I proposed The Poconos… as in renting a Cabin for a week-end or some such. What says the treehouse as a whole? (Nicki already said that she doesn’t do cold weather, so alternatives are welcome).

    And I’m off to another doctor’s appointment (@V, ain’t you proud of me? ;) ) and then class… :(

    Talk to y’all tomorrow!

  305. Offdwall
    July 6, 2009 | 2:50 pm

    “You’ll leave here wanting to move here.”

    @V: Ima need some more people too. Thanks.

  306. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 2:52 pm

    I proposed The Poconos”

    isnt the poconos for lovaaaaahs…???

  307. Lovely Paradox
    July 6, 2009 | 2:55 pm

    isnt the poconos for lovaaaaahs…???

    Don’t you love us? :)

    No, it’s not necessarily for lovers… It’s great for groups as well, since there are a lot of activities available. I proposed the Poconos for the adventure side of it… and the possibility of collectively renting a cabin and just having fun.

    But I’m waiting for propositions as well… Offey mentionned DC (where I’ll be in November anyways) so we can do that as well.

  308. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 2:56 pm

    I don’t do cold either. If we heading south holla at me.

  309. The Comeback Girl
    July 6, 2009 | 2:56 pm

    “Don’t you love us? ”

    that sounds fun…yes i love yall.

  310. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    @V Renee
    “And this is from someone that’s from the D. hahahaha. So funny.”

    You may not find a job but you will have fun.

  311. I always knew 80's wasn't number 1
    July 6, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    And I’m off to another doctor’s appointment (@V, ain’t you proud of me? ) and then class… .

    I am soooooooo proud of you.

    @V: Ima need some more people too. Thanks. .

    Must I keep telling yall, I work alone. No other people needed. Thanks.

  312. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 2:57 pm

    @CBG

    Usually but if we are gonna rent a really big cabin I think it would be fun! And treehousey plus a good bonding experience…like LP and Offey could cook etc

  313. I always knew 80's wasn't number 1
    July 6, 2009 | 2:58 pm

    But I’m waiting for propositions as well… Offey mentionned DC (where I’ll be in November anyways) so we can do that as well. .

    If I go to DC, yall may not find me the whole trip. LMAO.

  314. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 2:59 pm

    @Offdwall
    “Ima need some more people too. Thanks.”

    That is a hard task. Especially in North Dakota.

  315. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 3:00 pm

    @ Humble You may not find a job but you will have fun. .

    I will say that the people I know from the D are some of the realest/craziest mofos. I have yet to meet anyone from there that I didn’t like, so I believe ya.

  316. Hugh Jazz
    July 6, 2009 | 3:01 pm

    V & Humble: ““Props to No More for representing for the males, since the others weren’t brave enough to come.”

    Those of us that didn’t come were not scared.”

    Don’t plan the next trip during a holiday.

  317. Shut up.... I'm the 200th and 300th commenter for the day!!!!!
    July 6, 2009 | 3:02 pm

    If I go to DC, yall may not find me the whole trip. LMAO.

    @V….. You gonna pull a disappearing act on us??????? LMAO

  318. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 3:03 pm

    @ Hugh – Don’t plan the next trip during a holiday. .

    That needs to be taken up with Chi-town. No one told them to hold the Taste that weekend.

    @ Humble – I aint from no d@mn N. Dakota!!!!! Buckeyes – all day everyday!

  319. Rockstar Holly
    July 6, 2009 | 3:04 pm

    Hey ya’ll still recovering!!! LP can you email me??? Or someone email me her address… I’m in the works of planning maybe a Miami for New Years……

  320. Rockstar Holly
    July 6, 2009 | 3:04 pm

    I will be in DC in Oct

  321. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 3:05 pm

    Jazzy you acting like you was gonna miss Christmas or something. You’ve seen fireworks before…I think you could have skipped a year!

  322. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 3:07 pm

    @ Hollies

    What you doing in DC? Ya’ll might make me road trip it to our capital.

  323. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 3:08 pm

    @ 80s @V….. You gonna pull a disappearing act on us??????? LMAO .

    I’m just saying, I may step off the plane only to be found on the plane back home……sitting in the back, eyes closed with a smile on my face. LMAO

  324. Rockstar Holly
    July 6, 2009 | 3:10 pm

    @Jada- One of my homegirls leaves there… and I was suppose to go visit her like during the Inaug but work happened… so i’m going up there to go hard in the CEMENT!!! lol

  325. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 3:11 pm

    @ Hollies!

    You and that damn cement! Gotcha!

  326. Rockstar Holly
    July 6, 2009 | 3:12 pm

    @Jada- LOL!!!!! No but seriously!! It may be like it was in Chicago except we will go out one night.

  327. Shut up.... I'm the 200th and 300th commenter for the day!!!!!
    July 6, 2009 | 3:12 pm

    I’m just saying, I may step off the plane only to be found on the plane back home……sitting in the back, eyes closed with a smile on my face. LMAO

    @V.Renee…. Girl, that’s where my crush lives…. I might be right with you…….

  328. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 3:13 pm

    @V Renee
    ” I aint from no d@mn N. Dakota!!!!! Buckeyes – all day everyday!”

    North Dakota, Wyoming, Ohio, Montana, Mississippi it’s all the same.

  329. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 3:15 pm

    @Holly
    “so i’m going up there to go hard in the CEMENT!!! lol”

    You do that a lot huh? Do you do this in every city you visit?

  330. Jada
    July 6, 2009 | 3:17 pm

    I need to know what the weather is gonna be like around New Year’s in the MIA. If it’s cool..that might ruin the experience for me since I’m used to going when it’s blazing! I lurves hot weather.

  331. Rockstar Holly
    July 6, 2009 | 3:19 pm

    “You do that a lot huh? Do you do this in every city you visit?”

    @Humble- Why yessir I do!!! LOL

    @Jada- Please let it actually feel like 79!

  332. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 3:29 pm

    North Dakota, Wyoming, Ohio, Montana, Mississippi it’s all the same. .

    I rebuke this. Ohio is NOTHING like any of those other states. Don’t act like you don’t know people from Ohio….and you probably love them.

  333. Humble Fonzarelli
    July 6, 2009 | 3:37 pm

    @V Renee
    “I rebuke this. Ohio is NOTHING like any of those other states. Don’t act like you don’t know people from Ohio….and you probably love them.”

    I’m joking. What did surprise me was how country most of the state is. I ran into some backwood 2520s in Ohio.

  334. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 3:42 pm

    @V

    I love the wildflowers on the side of the roads in Ohio.

    Are you gonna be streaming the MJ memorial?

  335. V Renee
    July 6, 2009 | 3:47 pm

    I’m joking. What did surprise me was how country most of the state is. I ran into some backwood 2520s in Ohio. .

    Outside of the actual cities, Ohio is COUNTRY. Rednecks all over.

    @ Jaci Are you gonna be streaming the MJ memorial? .

    I’m still trying to make it out to the actual funeral. F*** that lottery system. MJ would have wanted me there.

  336. Jaci
    July 6, 2009 | 3:58 pm

    @V

    Ok maybe we need to go back to Chi…finally the only straight man and get his help.

    Ok..so you gotta leave tonight. That’s in the mornin like 8am Pacific.

    He’s not coming back cause he’s sleeping with me

  337. temps
    July 6, 2009 | 8:21 pm

    CBG is about power and this sewing the wild oats thing doesn’t get old need proof? Two words erectile dysfuction. We have now created a drug so instead of slowin EVERYTHING, one thing will still act like 35 year old. Not only do the pills keep a old man up but they also keep him wanting more. So why slow down cuz ur 50? If I can bang some 25 year old @ 50 I will. The proof here is Larry Kings and Tony Randalls. Also CBG have you not noticed the amount of politicians gettin caught? You sound naive like Kaye from Godfather 1 damn straight lots of (esp older ones) male politicians cheat from JFK to to south Caroliner govenor and he aint no spring chicken!
    And yea you betta believe men will use any sense of power to get laid, lie a be a thug or pimp his academic prowess and achievements to the lil bro frontin in big bro ride yes men will bernie madoff the whole thing to get that
    a$$!

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